No photos of coins [solved]

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This message aims at: suggesting an idea to improve Numista

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I've noticed over the years that some coin pages without pictures may have a Numista index of lower than 80. I always add a pic if this is the case since I photograph every coin I get but what's the chances of instead, when a page is created without pics automatically instead of nothing we have "image required" or something along those lines ? I know it may not reap a lot of gains but it may just work to make some members build the quality of the catalogue.
To not allow a sheet to be created just because it lacks pictures is not a good idea, I reckon. But I reckon it would be fit to have a category in the main forum titled "pictures needed", where we track down the coin sheets which don't have a picture.

I recently deleted a picture, since it was showing the wrong coin. I have asked for pictures here.
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Or maybe display a message when you visit a coin page without pictures and you have that coin.
"If you are in possession of this coin please consider providing Numista with pictures of it and make Numista's catalog a bit better"
When I have it, I always try to add a pic. I just asked for a missing pic for a Zurich Schilling coin.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
Quote: "ngdawa"​To not allow a sheet to be created just because it lacks pictures is not a good idea, I reckon. But I reckon it would be fit to have a category in the main forum titled "pictures needed", where we track down the coin sheets which don't have a picture.

​I recently deleted a picture, since it was showing the wrong coin. I have asked for pictures here.
​That would be great. I think you could open an own thread for this.
I'm not orange and also in other things I'm not a Donald at all. DonChori like Don Felipe or Doña María, por favor.
Quote: "ngdawa"​To not allow a sheet to be created just because it lacks pictures is not a good idea, I reckon. But I reckon it would be fit to have a category in the main forum titled "pictures needed", where we track down the coin sheets which don't have a picture.

​I recently deleted a picture, since it was showing the wrong coin. I have asked for pictures here.
No, I mean just instead of there automatically being no pictures that image needed or something be there from the start.​
I get what you mean. If there has not been a image uploaded, then display a place holder like this for example. A clear place holder yet Numista branded (Like the watermark style diagonal "Numista.com" I have included, to make sure no claim can be made regarding that image), this enables the same placeholder to be default until a certified image has been added.

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Hi
I dont understand, - what a sense in it? If there is no image, it means that image required.
And, if someone have that coin, and also have a wish to spend some minutes and upload own image, he will do it with pleasure.
So, I dont see a sense of this modification. Better to create a separate button " required images" where members could find which images are missing by countries.

best
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Exactly like that fluke.

I dont see where you're losing my train of thought David. There's shit loads of members who have certain coins which don't have images in the catalogue. They couldn't give a toss because they just want to know they have it in future weather it has a picture on the numista file or not is irrelevant. I think having the picture fluke made as a default for no image added would or could spur someone to take that couple of minutes to photograph the coin when they've probably just got it and are cataloging it.
I dont lost it :)
I just say that those who want to make contribution and take pictures for Numista catalog, they will do it anyway. I dont think this image will stimulate someone to make photo and upload it. Because there is no any bonus for it, just personal pleasure to see complete coin page.
but , I agree with You at all, - probably in low per cent it would work .
so, my +1 vote
Yours
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Cheers david. The way I look at it anything that may help is a bonus no matter what !
There are plenty of members who will browse pages but wont actually think to add an image. Not everybody is willing to take the small amount of time it will take to upload the image there and then. This might give them a little shove to take the effort.

There are many things that people already "know" has to be done, doesn't mean they will do it. But there is more of a chance if they are reminded in a subtle manner.
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Quote: "Idolenz"​Or maybe display a message when you visit a coin page without pictures and you have that coin.
​"If you are in possession of this coin please consider providing Numista with pictures of it and make Numista's catalog a bit better"
​I like this!
Wanted to list this suggestion in the sticky thread, but since it was already liked by Xavier, I do not think this needs to be reminded. Also +1 from me!
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Is there a way to search all pages that have no images? I could source royalty and copyright free images if I do not have them myself.
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To deny a page to be created simply due to a lack of a picture is a travesty, especially when verifiable source information is provided for.

My suggestion is to allow for such a page to be created, and to send a notification out to numistic user that are intersted in said area of coins, in hopes they can obtain a picture.

in order to find what numismatic user are interested in, a page should be created on the user page in which said user selects what coinage interest them (country, year range, metal, etc) , and what they are knowledgeable in ( using a rating scale) thus said user we be more willing to contribute since it serves their self interest.

For example an Archeologist may only be interested in ancient Celtic coinage, thus said user will have a lot of source material and access to said coinage, and thus is more willing to contribute and edit said coinage.
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
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Quote: "Fluke"​Is there a way to search all pages that have no images? I could source royalty and copyright free images if I do not have them myself.
​that would be great.

Superagentman, the pages will still be created, only instead of no photo it will have a "coin photo needed" place holder. I vote for this.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!

Looking for pre 1783 coins
if there is a list or a way to get me a list on what coin images are needed, I can get on it right away.

feel free to pm me with a catalogue page link that has no images
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Page will only be created and shared with the public if the admin / moderator approves. Apparently if no picture is provided, then the page is not approved thus it is not shared to the public. I was told this is a rule.
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/
No, I would always still add it.
Quote: "superagentman"​Page will only be created and shared with the public if the admin / moderator approves. Apparently if no picture is provided, then the page is not approved thus it is not shared to the public. I was told this is a rule.
​This is a really bad idea. Many people may have coins that they can identify, but are not nice enough to take a picture of to show in the catalog. I am speaking here mostly of Hammered coins, ancient, Medieval coins. Even modern ones from China, Tibet, Nepal fall in that category.
If they are in such a condition that one can identify them they should also be worth putting in the catalog if nothing better is available
I have already submited coins from catalogues for which I have no photos, as I do not own the right to them. I do not know why that should be bad in any way. If I had the photos, I would never hesitate to add them.
Catalogue administrator
Well some of the Numista Referees (without naming names) believe that if you do not have a picture to accompany a new page / coin being added to the website, then it will not be made available to the general public to view.
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/
I know some ones like this in the French side. But this is understandable, as photos are a proof of quality in files they're managing.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
Having read this topic, I felt the need to help out.I have just added photographs and some information for some Isle of Man coins dated 1985. Life and Times of the Queen Mother.Only glad to help where I can
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
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I agree with Ngdawa surprisingly. I am right there with superagentman. Apparantly Jarcek used to feel this way as well?
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If you are collector, the information of what you do NOT have is as much valueable as what you have.
So as I referee I have entered - and I encourage collectors of my referee era - to add coin sheets of non-owned coins as long as they have the correct catalogue references.
As these coins we do not have - unless they are an auction item or sold by a friendly website - by definition, we do not have the picture.
But in my taste it is still much better to have a coin on Numista with no picture, and hope for the best that some collectors grab it sooner or later, than not having it registered.
I just asks for photos when people state that they own the coin, that is all. :)
Catalogue administrator

I propose something like this, as a place card picture for very rare coins, that are documented in references books, but currently their is no pictures for.
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/
Quote: "superagentman"
​I propose something like this, as a place card picture for very rare coins, that are documented in references books, but currently their is no pictures for.
​"Please help us by providing pictures for this coin" might be good. "Please upload this item pictures" doesn't sound like good English to me.
Otherwise is was a very nice pic for those without pic. :)
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Damn always a grammar nazi when you need one.
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
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Is that better for you :)
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/
The only issue I have with the icon is that it is usually used in places where photography is prohibited.
What image would you propose? I can easily change it.
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
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I think this idea is great, but that image has too much in it for my liking. Remember that the image will show up in search results and lists of coins by country.

Why not just a grey coin picture like now, only with the text IMAGE NEEDED (possibly with PLEASE HELP on the reverse)? That's how Wikipedia does it.
I'm glad this idea is eventually catching on when I thought it was dead in the water.

I dont think you need a picture of a camera just the text a little bigger :)
Quote: "superagentman"

​Is that better for you :)
​Perfect! :D
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Quote: "superagentman"​Damn always a grammar nazi when you need one.
;) 0:)
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We need it bilingual as this website is also in French.

Numista a besoin de vous. Merci de fournir des images de cette pièce.
Merci de votre aide.

IMAGE INDISPONIBLE


EDIT: I've a better idea, to say this FILE instead of COIN, as the pics needed for a file, which depicts the coin. (French: fiche instead of pièce)
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.

What do you think about this one?
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
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Yes - I like that. Will use it now on some I saw earlier that had no image. Thanks :)

Like this one ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86057.html
Also have used it one the first few pages of the tokens section, on about a dozen
tokens so far - either with no or one picture. I cannot use it on any coin from
a country as it would need to be approved then by a referee, whereas it would
be quicker if the referees themselves did it directly.
That would be huge work to post it everywhere!
Catalogue administrator
Quote: "Jarcek"​That would be huge work to post it everywhere!
​I suggest that you provide this image to all of the Referees, and let the referees decide when to implement it. Also when submitting a page, you can have it as the default picture for the page unless the person uploads a picture for said coin.
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/
I will notify them those I encounter, but I should start with my own backyard!
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For Coin:

For Medal:

For Medallion:

For Token:
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/
Oh, thanks! These are awesome!
Catalogue administrator
The image would have to be uploaded every single time and take up quite a bit of serverspace. It would be more efficient to make the bilingual sign and ask Xavier to change the grey circle to this sign. The only problem with this I would see with uniface coins that often don't have a picture of the blanc side ... then the sign would look quite irritating (but that's its purpose I'd think :O).
Quote: "superagentman"
Also when submitting a page, you can have it as the default picture for the page.

That would be better, instead of the current grey large dot.
If those coins have their pictures, they would taken up this space on the server anyway...
Catalogue administrator
Quote: "superagentman"​For Coin:

​For Medal:

​For Medallion:

​For Token:
​Great.
I will use them too.
But if we had a French version we could upload both for a coin sheet without pictures. One for the obverse and one for the reverse.
If someone knows French and tell me what to copy and paste I can make it in French version as well.
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/
I already suggested it for coins... But no one noticed it... ;(
Quote: "chomp-master"Numista a besoin de vous. Merci de fournir des images de cette pièce.
​Merci de votre aide.

​IMAGE INDISPONIBLE


​For medals, you have...
Quote: "chomp-master"Numista a besoin de vous. Merci de fournir des images de cette médaille.
​Merci de votre aide.

​IMAGE INDISPONIBLE


Medallions...
Quote: "chomp-master"Numista a besoin de vous. Merci de fournir des images de ce médaillon.
​Merci de votre aide.

​IMAGE INDISPONIBLE


And to conclude, tokens...
Quote: "chomp-master"Numista a besoin de vous. Merci de fournir des images de ce jeton.
​Merci de votre aide.

​IMAGE INDISPONIBLE


PS: I modified the French sentence to reduce similar translated words, as "help" and "support" can both be translated as "aide/aider".
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
Quote: "Fluke"​if there is a list or a way to get me a list on what coin images are needed, I can get on it right away.

​feel free to pm me with a catalogue page link that has no images
​Hi Fluke, you can use the following command in the easy search bar to find all coins with no pictures: "/no-picture/". You can also put "/no-picture/ zambia" for example, to find all Zambian coins with no pictures.
Quote: "nthn"​​Hi Fluke, you can use the following command in the easy search bar to find all coins with no pictures: "/no-picture/". You can also put "/no-picture/ zambia" for example, to find all Zambian coins with no pictures.

​Wow, that's useful! Are there more similar commands? (No obverse description, no lettering etc.)
There are two only referees and team members can use - /unverified/ and /incomplete/ that search for not verified coin sheets and year lists.

And several search lines in advanced search support the word "missing" .
I know it works with "shape". Did not try the others.

Also LOTR enthusiasts can find their "precious" in the metal field.

And penny hoarders their "non precious" love objects.
<:D
Catalogue administrator
For Coins - French

For Medal - French

For Medallion - French

For Tokens - French



I hope you like this :)
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
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Nice except missing caps compared to English one :P

EDIT: maybe I can upgrade the translation replacing "Merci de votre aide" by "Merci pour votre aide".
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
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That's nice and all but I hope you know that the pictures for coins are the same for either side of this site :°
Or goes one on the obverse and the other on reverse?
Quote: "Idolenz"​That's nice and all but I hope you know that the pictures for coins are the same for either side of this site :°
​Or goes one on the obverse and the other on adverse?
​It seems we already know that...
Quote: "Handzumgrus"​​But if we had a French version we could upload both for a coin sheet without pictures. One for the obverse and one for the reverse.

:°
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
must have had dirt on my eyes 0:)
you are killing me, any more edits needed, after all I took Spanish not French in high school.
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/
Coins - French

Medals - French

Medallions - French

Tokens - French
Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/
Hi,

Yes the idea is good, but I think it's better to chance actuel
by the image, without change evry pictures.

And the new picture is on page d'acceuil on Coins at random

it's not the best

Regards
I added the Dummy-Pictures in several coin sheets, but they all were rejected by the referee.

Perhaps you referees and team members should discuss this case and take a decision and let us users know what to do.

;)
That is another problem. B. Feel free to add it (one French, one English) to the countries without referee, I will validate it.
Catalogue administrator
Quote: "Handzumgrus"​I added the Dummy-Pictures in several coin sheets, but they all were rejected by the referee.

​Perhaps you referees and team members should discuss this case and take a decision and let us users know what to do.

;)
​Tell me by PM which referees rejected them, I'll have a talk with them.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
Good cop, bad cop. You all see how nicely we have this divided between us. :D Behave nicely! B)
Catalogue administrator
To have a talk doesn't mean I will crush the concerned referees... or not X-D :O
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
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Quote: "chomp-master"​To have a talk doesn't mean I will crush the concerned referees... or not X-D :O
​I guess not, but it was just stronger than me, I had to write that. :D
Catalogue administrator
Quote: "chomp-master"
Quote: "Handzumgrus"​I added the Dummy-Pictures in several coin sheets, but they all were rejected by the referee.
​​
​​Perhaps you referees and team members should discuss this case and take a decision and let us users know what to do.
​​
​​;)
​​Tell me by PM which referees rejected them, I'll have a talk with them.

:.
;)

They are no lazy or bad guys. They only sayd: "I think it's not necessary, Thanks".

I added these Pics to the following sheets:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces16163.html
This Slovenian 30 € coin is from 2010. It is about time somebody add pics here.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80936.html
This 2 € is not issued yet. This will happen within this year and this problem will be solved then.

Florino28 is the referee for Slovenia.
I pointet him to look here and he answered here and took part of the discussion with a suggestion which is not bad, i think (if i understand it right).

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces82330.html
The Value side of the 2 Euro is ok, but i fear the user who has this coin (or will have it) and wants to add the obverse picture will let the reverse stay as it is. So we would have two totally different looking pictures and the reverse is not really the coin which is discribed on the sheet.

Whitegandalf is referee for Italy.


It is not that important. The 2 Euro coin Pictures will come as soon as the coins have been issued. It was the first time since we have this new Dummy-Pics i saw a sheet where i could use them and i tried it. I uploaded the English version for Obverse and the French for reverse.

I gave both referees enogh other requests to do and they validated all this. Thanks to both of them. :)
But i realized, this Thread here is not known by all the referees. And it seems there is not an agreement so far to use this Dummy-pictures.

nice greetings

Lars
Hmmm I don't think Whitegandalf is responsible in this case. Florino is a catalogue administrator for euro coins, and was granted the status of referee in all eurozone countries. As he already gave his opinion 2 days ago, I think it was a way to mark his opposition which didn't seem enough clear.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
I understood he suggests to exchange this not very beautiful grey round which is implemented in the system and shown in the coin list into the Picrutes made by superagentman.
Perhaps i got him wrong. But if i got him right, i would say this is a good idea.
I would love to see this taken on by the rest of the catalogue. I will be using one English one french for the pictures for now to allow maximum participation !
Mark240590 and I have modified the "No pictures" pictures to remove the outline border on the English picture, and standardize the fonts. See below.



Thanks, Nathan
Xavior, for the sake of God spare the human suffering, it's just a basic database update statement.
Yes, I will do.
Everything is awesoooome! :wiz:
Catalogue administrator
I just changed the placeholder for missing pictures into the following:



or in French:


This placeholder also appears when viewing the coin. The previous placeholder used to show up only in the list of search results.
Nice. Thank you!
:wiz:Everything ia awesomeeee!
Catalogue administrator
I think adding a picture should be mandatory.

I am the only one when looking japanese, arab or any non-romanized charecters coin does it only looking the image instead the description?

Everyone have a cellphone with camera nowadays :°
Quote: "Geison"​​ Everyone have a cellphone with camera nowadays :°
Not me! :)

Awesome! It's rumbled on for a while but I'm glad we got there in the end.. I'm pretty sure this will help get us some photos :)

also Zac is that a 6230 ?? HAha I haven't seen one for donkeys !
I have no idea - hang on, I'll unclip the battery from the back ...
label says Nokia Model: 6310i Type: NPL-1
and there is a Vodafone SIM card in there as I am on pay-as-you-go. :D
Quote: "ZacUK"​ I have no idea - hang on, I'll unclip the battery from the back ...
​label says Nokia Model: 6310i Type: NPL-1 :D
​We call them weapons in there.
You can let this brick fall from 4th floor and it goes back to life after you bring back battery. :D
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Quote: "Jarcek"
Quote: "ZacUK"​ I have no idea - hang on, I'll unclip the battery from the back ...
​​label says Nokia Model: 6310i Type: NPL-1 :D
​​We call them weapons in there.
​You can let this brick fall from 4th floor and it goes back to life after you bring back battery. :D
​I once threw my Nokia 1112 full force into a wail when I got particularly angry. Took 30 minutes to fully bring it back to life, and the screen got cracked a bit and was a good deal fainter after that, but otherwise it worked just fine for the next few months.
Eight or so months later, we found an unused Nokia 1112 at a friends' house. Took the screen and some inner workings from that one, the rest from the old one (including the battery, IIRC); I still use the resulting combination today (nearly five years later).
Back to topic.
Is there a possibility to make a list of all coins that don't have pictures? There are plenty of websites that allow us to use their pictures and it would be easier to work on that without having to search for coin pages without pictures first. Thanks!
I'm not orange and also in other things I'm not a Donald at all. DonChori like Don Felipe or Doña María, por favor.
HERE you go.
But if the pictures above were used the coins will not show up in this list because they technically got pictures.
Quote: "Idolenz"HERE you go.
​But if the pictures above were used the coins will not show up in this list because they technically got pictures.
​I guess this deserves to become a new project
Jarek? 0:)
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The past ones are not even done yet. :) I will look what I can do with this.
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