(CCIP) Cooperative Catalogue Improvement Project - Arabic lettering

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Hello everyone,

Since I receive many requests to write Arabic lettering & translation for coins in private msgs, I've started this topic to receive all requests here.
So, get the requests coming :)
If you are not sure, I can also have a look.
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It's really difficult to read Ottoman coins without a translator or a table of Arabic words. There must be a table or a translator for Arabic lettering or an article by someone teaching how to read Arabic words.
Forgotten shall not be this. B)

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86572.html
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Quote: "Jarcek"​Forgotten shall not be this. B)

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86572.html
​That was not Arabic really 0:)
However it's done. Lettering was found in the linked coin :)
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Quote: "Subha Barua"​It's really difficult to read Ottoman coins without a translator or a table of Arabic words. There must be a table or a translator for Arabic lettering or an article by someone teaching how to read Arabic words.
​I believe Krause has something like this, and such info could be found online easily somehow - at least I hope so
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Quote: "AmerSalmeh"
Quote: "Subha Barua"​It's really difficult to read Ottoman coins without a translator or a table of Arabic words. There must be a table or a translator for Arabic lettering or an article by someone teaching how to read Arabic words.
​​I believe Krause has something like this, and such info could be found online easily somehow - at least I hope so
​AmerSalmeh, Please try to make this in Numista, not online.... Because ths is CCiP.
Can you read the upper half of the reverse of this Moroccan coin?
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces50836.html
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Quote: "zegeri"​Can you read the upper half of the reverse of this Moroccan coin?
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces50836.html
​Sadly not. I haven't done any work on Morocco yet. And I was the one who requested identifying this coin
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic59857.html
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Please do sommethng about arabic letterings.
There are already books that contains all the Arabic lettering for a lot of coins, but it just hasn't been transcribed electronically. If you are going to do this, I suggest you download those books as they are free:

Lavoix, Catalogue des monnaies musulmanes de la Bibliothèque nationale - Egypte et Syrie
Lavoix, Catalogue des monnaies musulmanes de la Bibliothèque nationale - Khalifes Orientaux
Poole, Catalogue of Oriential coins in the British museum (all parts)
Valentine, Modern copper coins of the Muhammadan states of Turkey, Persia, Egypt, Afghanistan, Morocco, Tripoli, Tunis, etc

Lavoix is available here and here and BMC Catalogs as well as Valentine are available at archive.org...
Quote: "Quant.Geek"​There are already books that contains all the Arabic lettering for a lot of coins, but it just hasn't been transcribed electronically. If you are going to do this, I suggest you download those books as they are free:

​Lavoix, Catalogue des monnaies musulmanes de la Bibliothèque nationale - Egypte et Syrie
​Lavoix, Catalogue des monnaies musulmanes de la Bibliothèque nationale - Khalifes Orientaux
​Poole, Catalogue of Oriential coins in the British museum (all parts)
​Valentine, Modern copper coins of the Muhammadan states of Turkey, Persia, Egypt, Afghanistan, Morocco, Tripoli, Tunis, etc

​Lavoix is available here and here and BMC Catalogs as well as Valentine are available at archive.org...
​Thanks but I also want to learn them asI want to help the victims of thses coins in Coin Identifications and Valuations.
The links which you posted are all junk..... None of them have nothing, no access to the next page.....
Are you kidding me? Try again and learn to read the contents and instructions that are on the page :°8)
Subha, this topic is not about learning Arabic, but mainly for referees who need help adding Arabic lettering to coin pages.

Please start a new topic asking for Arabic learning tables and websites, etc. thanks
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@Quant.Geek thanks for the links :)
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Quote: "AmerSalmeh"​@Quant.Geek thanks for the links :)
​Your welcome :). BTW, there are other numerous books that are available that can be downloaded, legally, for free wrt this topic. These, as well as others, are what I use to transcribe Arabic on my coin postings (with the help of Google translate). Above all, the following cheap book is a huge plus:

Plant, Arabic Coins and How to Read Them: An Introduction - Kindle Edition
This is classic! Read this conversation:
Subha Barua to Quant.Geek: "The links which you posted are all junk..... None of them have nothing, no access to the next page....."
Quant.Geek to Subha Barua : "Try again and learn to read the contents and instructions that are on the page "

Lets talk about Mathematical finance. lol
Gordon Gekko: Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy? It's the free market.
Quote: "Donkey"​This is classic!
​Subha Barua to Quant.Geek: "The links which you posted are all junk..... None of them have nothing, no access to the next page....."
​Quant.Geek to Subha Barua : "Try again and learn to read the contents and instructions that are on the page "

​Lets talk about Mathematical finance. lol
​No need to teach or learn. Bump.
Quote: "Subha Barua"
Quote: "Donkey"​This is classic!
​​Subha Barua to Quant.Geek: "The links which you posted are all junk..... None of them have nothing, no access to the next page....."
​​Quant.Geek to Subha Barua : "Try again and learn to read the contents and instructions that are on the page "
​​
​​Lets talk about Mathematical finance. lol
​​No need to teach or learn. Bump.
​Of course there's nothing to learn for you!!! 8) But I wish I could get a few lessons from Quant.Geek...
Gordon Gekko: Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy? It's the free market.
@Donkey Please take your issues with him somewhere else.
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Quote: "AmerSalmeh"​@Donkey Please take your issues with him somewhere else.
​Ok. Fair enough. Sorry, mate.
Gordon Gekko: Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy? It's the free market.
Quote: "AmerSalmeh"​@Donkey Please take your issues with him somewhere else.
​I don'thave any nasty issues with this silly guy and this guy is disturbing me too much, OH! Wait LET ME REPORT YOUR REPLY, WAIT!!!

@Donkey Please don't disturb me on this forum, and f you harras me like this , I will honestly report you and that you are junking all forum issues and harrassing me, please Don't junk forum topics, don't go all mental here and there's' no need to learn from Quant. Geek and no nasty from me, take all your unnecessary many talks outside from here, Beware.
Subha, please don't comment again here please. Enough is enough
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Quote: "AmerSalmeh"​Subha, please don't comment again here please. Enough is enough
​First you do stop your enoughness, do you haave any problem if I post for good issues? Please don't speak to me in a harsh way, see https://en.numista.com/forum/topic4505.html
Reported for forun ban. Enough was this nonsense.
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Can you please do the Arabic lettering for the reverse side of these three Israeli coins. Thanks
1 New Shekel (69th Anniversary of Independence - 50 Years Reunited Jerusalem)
2 New Shekels (69th Anniversary of Independence - 50 Years Reunited Jerusalem)
10 New Shekels (69th Anniversary of Independence - 50 Years Reunited Jerusalem)
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@Australian Coin Info done! :)
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Quote: "AmerSalmeh"​@Australian Coin Info done! :)
​Thanks for your work!
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I will probably have a look some time soon at all Israel coins since I've noticed a while ago that some have typos in Arabic lettering
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I will keep an eye out for your change requests.
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Can you please add the Arabic lettering for this coin. Thanks
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above request done
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All under
Israel - Palestine pound (1927-1952)
Israel - Old Shekel (1980-1985)
Israel - New Shekel (1986-date)
is done
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Israel completely checked.
Keep me posted of any new coins added.
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Quote: "AmerSalmeh"​Israel completely checked.
​Keep me posted of any new coins added.
​Thanks for your work. I will try and validate them all in the next few days.
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Could you please do the Arabic lettering for this coin. Thanks
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above request done, sorry for the delay
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Could you please do the Arabic lettering for the following coins. Thanks
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces127375.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces127376.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces127377.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces127378.html
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ِAll done, sorry for the delay
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Quote: "AmerSalmeh"​ِAll done, sorry for the delay
​Thanks for your work. Also please ignore the comment I felt on one of your change requests as the comment was accidentally added.
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Reporting for duty again :wiz:
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Sicily is reporting itself for decyphering and writings. :°
  1. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces112100.html
  2. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces112099.html
  3. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces141301.html
  4. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces83898.html
  5. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces102756.html
  6. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces79751.html
  7. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces112098.html
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And Spain as well: <:D
  1. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces122691.html
  2. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces75982.html
  3. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces124956.html
  4. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces124957.html
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Jerusalem! <:D
  1. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces114905.html
  2. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86890.html
  3. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces114880.html
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Probably all coins from Emirate of Bukhara (1785-1920) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/central-asia-1.html#c_central-asia4087

and Khanate of Khiva (1511-1920) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/central-asia-1.html#c_central-asia5065

and Khorezm People's Soviet Republic (1920-1925)https://en.numista.com/catalogue/central-asia-1.html#c_central-asia4088
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And Hungary! https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33693.html
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@Amer
Is it possible for you to transliterate other languages written in Arabic script (but not Arabic), such as Farsi, Urdu, and Malay? A Malaysian member has been helping me out with the latter, but I was wondering to what extent I could count on you for inputting lettering of the other two.
Quote: "CassTaylor"​@Amer
​Is it possible for you to transliterate other languages written in Arabic script (but not Arabic), such as Farsi, Urdu, and Malay? A Malaysian member has been helping me out with the latter, but I was wondering to what extent I could count on you for inputting lettering of the other two.
​to a certain extent only
I can type the ones that look like Arabic then use google/wiki to help with the rest

@Jarcek
These will have to wait 0:)
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@Amer
I'll send over some coin pages that have Farsi on them, see how much you can help me write it out. :`

Thanks in advance!
Finally remembered about sending you those coins that need Arabic checking. I'll do it later today. B)
Quote: "Jarcek"​Sicily is reporting itself for decyphering and writings. :°
​​
​1- cant ..
2- 2 words recognized - request submitted
3- cant. and pix are not very high-res
4- left side done (seems to be "there is no God but Allah" the most common phrase) - request submitted
5- cant
6- cant confirm what's currently mentioned
7- cant
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Quote: "Jarcek"​And Spain as well: <:D
​​
​1- did my best based on https://www.auctiones.ch/browse.html?auction=39&lot=8320#!prettyPhoto; improved lettering based on https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=3282684&AucID=3478&Lot=30438&Val=ca746aa6456734aa55707292ae8d951c
with 2 last words fixed by me
2- similar to above
3- a link to original coin being imitated would solve it
4- same as above
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Quote: "Jarcek"​Jerusalem! <:D
​​
​1- reverse done
2- link to imitated coin?
3- same as above
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Quote: "Jarcek"​Probably all coins from Emirate of Bukhara (1785-1920) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/central-asia-1.html#c_central-asia4087

​and Khanate of Khiva (1511-1920) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/central-asia-1.html#c_central-asia5065

​and Khorezm People's Soviet Republic (1920-1925)https://en.numista.com/catalogue/central-asia-1.html#c_central-asia4088
​1- later
2- later
3- invalid link
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Khorezm can be found under Russia now.
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Quote: "Jarcek"​And Hungary! https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33693.html
link to imitated coin?
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Quote: "CassTaylor"​Finally remembered about sending you those coins that need Arabic checking. I'll do it later today. B)
​you still did not :D
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Quote: "AmerSalmeh"
Quote: "CassTaylor"​Finally remembered about sending you those coins that need Arabic checking. I'll do it later today. B)
​​you still did not :D
​Right, Right, my apologies!

The relevant coins in Ceylon are Persian ones with Dutch counterstamps I recently added, but I thought you might be able to check the Arabic script lettering is right, anyway:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces145011.html

The original coins are linked for each one; also KM#s 42, 50, and 51 could use your checking too.
@CassTaylor
done
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Quote: "AmerSalmeh"​@CassTaylor
​done
​Wow that was fast!

Thank you!
Quote: "AmerSalmeh"​​​1- later
​2- later
​3- invalid link
​1- Bukhara done
2- Khiva done
3- Khorezm done
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