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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 04:05
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 04:05
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Where in the Numista catalogue would I place these two British Guiana/Essequibo and Demerary coins? The dealer states that they are from British Guiana however they then state that the coins were struck in 1808 which is before the creation of British Guiana. The two coins also have an abbreviated form of Essequibo and Demerary stamped as the issuing authority.
The two coins in question are from the first listing from this coin dealer.
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 04:23
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 04:23
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Under the Demerara and Essiquibo Thaler section of Guiana? That currency seems to run from year dot up to 1839 as no lower limit for the currency is listed
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/essequebo-demarary-1.html
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 04:28
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 04:28
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I could place them there. However the coins listed there are from the British period whereas the two coins I want to add date from the Dutch period.
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 04:36
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 04:36
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Might need a new section added then possibly?
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 10:10
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 10:10
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For now, put them there with new currency. Some other islands have also different colonial rulers in one country listing.
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 10:34
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Posted: 14-Jul-2017, 10:34
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And as Demerara & Essequibo starts from KM#4, I guess three different coins are missing from there.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2017, 03:17
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Posted: 15-Jul-2017, 03:17
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What would you suggest I name the new currency?
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Posted: 15-Jul-2017, 07:04
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Posted: 15-Jul-2017, 07:04
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what denomination are the coins?
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Posted: 15-Jul-2017, 07:10
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One has a value of 3 Guilders and the other has a value of 3 bits (equal to 15 Dutch stiver).
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Posted: 16-Jul-2017, 02:44
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Posted: 16-Jul-2017, 02:44
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Well if the currency is still the gulden then it should be alright to put it in the current section. we can sort it out later if needs be.
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Posted: 16-Jul-2017, 21:00
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These are British Guiana issues. Just denominated in Guilders as they were for quite some time. They are classed as part of the cut and countermarked West Indies coins. Extremely rare ! List them as Essequibo & Demerara
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Posted: 18-Jul-2017, 02:23
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Posted: 18-Jul-2017, 02:23
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I am currently trying to search for some images. Does anyone happen to know of any from an authorised source?
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Posted: 18-Jul-2017, 08:48
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You could try Heritage Auctions, I believe they've given permission to use images from their site
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Posted: 18-Jul-2017, 10:27
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Is that one?
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1182446 CNG gave us their permission so you could use those photos
and here for the other one from Heritage Auctions
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1822779
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Posted: 18-Jul-2017, 13:10
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Quote: "apuking"Is that one? https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1182446 CNG gave us their permission so you could use those photos
and here for the other one from Heritage Auctions
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1822779
Thanks, these should work.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2017, 11:17
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Posted: 20-Jul-2017, 11:17
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They have been added! thanks everyone for the help.
3 Guilders - George III
3 Bits - George III
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Posted: 20-Jul-2017, 11:59
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Posted: 20-Jul-2017, 11:59
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the 3 Guilders is missing the coin type
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Posted: 25-Jul-2017, 14:32
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Posted: 25-Jul-2017, 14:32
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Demerary & Essequibo's coins were last struck in 1835.
British Guiana's coins were first struck in 1836.
Both countries should be listed separately - as should British Guiana & West Indies.
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