Owais
Joined: 28-Jun-2017
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Posted: 28-Jul-2017, 19:32
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Posted: 28-Jul-2017, 19:32
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Hello,
Can someone help to identify this coin. It seems from Ragusa but cannot find anything similar at Numista.
Best Regards,
Owais
Essor Prof
Joined: 13-Apr-2015
Posts: 3784
Posted: 28-Jul-2017, 20:02
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Posted: 28-Jul-2017, 20:02
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This should be your coin, Ragusa, 1 ducato, KM# 15.
But I'm afraid yours is only an imitation of the real coin:
SpuDy
Joined: 13-May-2017
Posts: 799
Posted: 28-Jul-2017, 20:45
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Posted: 28-Jul-2017, 20:45
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Yes, it is.
Look at the reverse side, is rotated few degrees.
Owais
Joined: 28-Jun-2017
Posts: 33
Posted: 31-Jul-2017, 09:19
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Posted: 31-Jul-2017, 09:19
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It is Silver for sure. Do they make fakes in silver also?
Is it a possibility that the reverse side tilt is a minting error??
What are the other characteristics that you see, which makes this coin an imitation or fake in your opinion?
pabandom
Joined: 31-May-2016
Posts: 272
Posted: 31-Jul-2017, 11:17
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Posted: 31-Jul-2017, 11:17
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I would not say that it is fake only becouse it has a small rotation diference
Choucas
Joined: 21-Jun-2017
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Posted: 31-Jul-2017, 13:00
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Posted: 31-Jul-2017, 13:00
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In my opinion, you can see it is fake by looking at the face and the hand of the bishop. These are really not well made, looking at the real coin.
Essor Prof
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Posts: 3784
Posted: 31-Jul-2017, 16:31
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Posted: 31-Jul-2017, 16:31
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Put the two coins aside and look at all the differences. The lettering is different, but especially your coin only shows outskirts, there is no filling between the lines:
Especially, like
Choukas said, look at the face and hand of the bishop. On your coin it looks like a caricature. The hand looks like a flower and the face of the bishop looks like a knight in armor:
Owais, what makes you so sure it's silver. Which tests have you done?
Owais
Joined: 28-Jun-2017
Posts: 33
Posted: 1-Aug-2017, 11:16
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Posted: 1-Aug-2017, 11:16
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Hi All,
I agree to your comments and am very much convinced that it is a fake. There are alot of differences.
Regarding tests for silver, I did magnet test and ice test. Read about them on the internet.
Are there any other household tests to find out if it is silver or not?
Best Regards,
Owais
MonaSeaclaid
Joined: 21-Jan-2016
Posts: 1007
Posted: 1-Aug-2017, 14:16
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Posted: 1-Aug-2017, 14:16
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There are tests that can ruin a coin, such as the acid test, but since it's a fake that doesn't really matter. For what it's worth if I were making a replica I'd use silver.
kommodore
Joined: 5-Nov-2009
Posts: 2966
Posted: 1-Aug-2017, 17:34
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Posted: 1-Aug-2017, 17:34
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It's probably not silver, something nikel with steel most likely
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