Ronald70
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Posted: 14-Dec-2017, 14:45
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Posted: 14-Dec-2017, 14:45
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found this coin with donor coin 5 Reichspfennig (
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1917.html). You can clearly see the donor coin.
are those coins rare?
PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 14-Dec-2017, 15:04
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Posted: 14-Dec-2017, 15:04
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Never seen one before.....
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Posted: 14-Dec-2017, 15:08
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Posted: 14-Dec-2017, 15:08
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What a wonderful coin! It is sometimes rare to be able to see the donor coin so clearly. But actually this happens quite often. Italy did this a lot. Especially with the 20 centesimi. I have seen several with the donor coin clearly visible. South American countries and Central American countries overstrike...I have Costa Rican coin that was overstruck with a new date and denomination. But the overstrike was so small in relation to the host coin. You could see the design all around the edge.
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Leitwolf
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Posted: 15-Dec-2017, 22:39
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Posted: 15-Dec-2017, 22:39
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Look into german Jaeger-catalogue ("coins under allied occupation", page 369 in 23rd edition):
"Austria struck its first after-war-coins (1, 5 and 10 Groschen) by recoining 1 (J# 369, 373), 5 (J# 370, 374) and 10 Reichspfennig (J# 371, 375)."
Nice and special coin!
GerhardJ65
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Posted: 16-Dec-2017, 14:36
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Posted: 16-Dec-2017, 14:36
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HI
Austrian 5 Groschen after WW2. J.450
First coin from 1948
1950 is second coin 5 Groschen: Zn, 250gramm, 19 mm Dia, 19,43Mio coins
ss= 1 Euro, vz=5 Euro
PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 16-Dec-2017, 17:16
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Posted: 16-Dec-2017, 17:16
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Quote: "GerhardJ65"....Zn, 250gramm, .....
WOOOW, heavy coin!!!
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GerhardJ65
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 01:27
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 01:27
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sorry 2,50Gramm
Ronald70
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 08:30
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 08:30
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Quote: "GerhardJ65"HI
Austrian 5 Groschen after WW2. J.450
First coin from 1948
1950 is second coin 5 Groschen: Zn, 250gramm, 19 mm Dia, 19,43Mio coins
ss= 1 Euro, vz=5 Euro
Yes, I know about the basic facts of this coin and I know that it is a very Common coin. but I think it is very uncommon to find one were you can see the previous coin so clearly.
Leitwolf
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 10:14
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 10:14
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Quote: "GerhardJ65"HI
Austrian 5 Groschen after WW2. J.450
First coin from 1948
1950 is second coin 5 Groschen: Zn, 250gramm, 19 mm Dia, 19,43Mio coins
ss= 1 Euro, vz=5 Euro
Is there any difference between 1948 coin and 1950 et sqq. coins?
GerhardJ65
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 11:10
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 11:10
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there 1948 and 1950
Coins from my collection
Ronald70
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 13:18
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 13:18
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I have the feeling that we are talking about differnt things.
GerhardJ65
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 14:11
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 14:11
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they are not rar.
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tony.c
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 14:35
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Posted: 17-Dec-2017, 14:35
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Quote: "GerhardJ65"they are not rar.
My Englisch is not the best
I think you should take a closer look at the pictures in the beginning of this tread : the groschen coin isn't rare, but it's rare to see the image of the host coin (5 reichspfennig) on it !
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Ecapoe
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Posted: 18-Dec-2017, 19:23
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Posted: 18-Dec-2017, 19:23
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Excellent !
You should send it to the referee of Austria and propose it as illustration for the comments.
New to most of us !
I have an interesting one with such an image, at least I think:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces18836.html
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Ronald70
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Posted: 18-Dec-2017, 21:55
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Posted: 18-Dec-2017, 21:55
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Quote: "Ecapoe"Excellent !
You should send it to the referee of Austria and propose it as illustration for the comments.
New to most of us !
I have an interesting one with such an image, at least I think: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces18836.html
Yes I will do so, but first I will try to take better pictures. Your example of a clearly visible overstrucked coin is also very intersting.
Ronald70
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Posted: 19-Dec-2017, 00:19
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Posted: 19-Dec-2017, 00:19
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Better pictures...
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