Where to place this coin, under 5 countries ? [solved]

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Hi,
Just look what i found. What do you think ? Were this coin should be placed ? Under five countries ?

http://agaunews.com/silver-coin-issued-for-5-countries-debuts/
http://allcollect.com/index.php/products/africa-united

Regards,
Damian
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Not sure, it actually looks like a token to me, but that's just my opinion.
It is denominated in the CFA franc...why don't you list it under that? Provided it is not a token..
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Its not a token Jokinen because have a coat of arms even 5 of them :D
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Oklahoman what do you mean under CFA Franc ?
Former numista referee for Poland and half of african countries.
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The country, which is still wrongly called "Western Africa".
On the 5 coats of arms you find "cfa" franc written, so it sounds kind of logical to put the "coin" there, no?
Remains to define if it's a coin or not?
Ole
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
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Yes, that will be the best place for this coin.
I see its already in catalog but with wrong copyrights;/
Yes we should named this product as coin
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces117407.html
Former numista referee for Poland and half of african countries.
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And correct name for that country should be?
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West African, I do not know who managed to turn that into Western..... which is only a possible way to call it, but look here. It's from Wikipedia:

West Africa, also called Western Africa and the West of Africa, is the westernmost region of Africa. West Africa has been defined as including 18 countries: Benin, Burkina Faso, the island nation of Cape Verde, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, the island of Saint Helena, Senegal, Sierra Leone, São Tomé and Príncipe and Togo.[7]

In numista I think it should be either West Africa or West African States, like in KM by the way!!! On the coins it's written "Union Monetaire Ouest Africa" = West African Monetary Union.

Of course we could also call South Africa "Southern Africa", we would all know what it is, but it's NOT easy to search for non official names, is it now? What about Southern Korea, Southern Vietnam and what have we? Centralian Africa also sounds good, doesn't it?

Southern Rhodesia is different, because that name was officially written on the coins....

Ole
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
I agree with you in 100% this should be changed.
Former numista referee for Poland and half of african countries.
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Hi,

We prefer eastern, southern etc when we are talking about rather indefinite areas, and east, south etc. for more clearly defined places.
From here http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/usage/east-eastern.htm

West Africa is extremely well defined by real border lines of the included countries....

Ole
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
OK, I will include this on next admin meeting. (It just needs to go through the process, I cannot start making changes on my own whenever I like...)
Catalogue administrator
Thanks Jarcek,

it's nice you're there to defend us, thanks.

Ole
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
If you (anyone) knows that something else is wrongly named or something, you can always PM me. I cannot know all the right names or read all the forum threads. Creating countries, currencies and guidelines is quite a work and it is quite usefull when somebody gives me already researched problems with solutions instead of just pointing that this is wrong and we should do something.
Catalogue administrator
As referee for that Western Africa (BCEAO), I have to also point out that one of the issuer nations (Republic of the Congo) is technically in the Central Africa (BEAC) grouping.

And I think that Western Africa (BCEAO) is as close to a right name as we can get for this currency issued for a group of countries. To name it 'CFA Franc' would mean adding the commemoratives denominated in CFA Francs from Ivory Coast, Niger, Burkina Faso, Mali, Togo, Benin, and more to this 'category'. In fact, I added this coin to BCEAO because it was the place where it would stick out the least.
Jarcek,

I do appreciate your extreme efforts to make numista better! Of course you can neither read everything nor know everything, that's why we work as a community. It works much better since your're on board.

I certainly wouldn't like to have your "job", which sometimes is made extremely stressing by unconstructive critisism.

Thanks again

Ole
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Quote: "CassTaylor"​As referee for that Western Africa (BCEAO), I have to point out that one of the issuer nations (Republic of the Congo) is technically in the Central Africa (BEAC) grouping.
​Of course you're right, but that doens't really change much in the naming, does it?

Ole
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Quote: "Sjoelund"​​We prefer eastern, southern etc when we are talking about rather indefinite areas, and east, south etc. for more clearly defined places.

​West Africa is extremely well defined by real border lines of the included countries...

​You are right. "Western Africa" just means: everything what's in the west of Africa, independent from country borders.

"West Africa" is a bit better, but what's wrong with "West African States". That's the name written on every single coin there: "ETATS DE L'AFRIQUE DE L'OUEST", French for West African States. And it's also the exact name where you can find these coins in all the major catalogues and web sites. Krause uses "West African States", Schön uses "Westafrikanische Staaten", German for "West African States", but that's obvious of course. We're not making Numista better by choosing a way no one else does.

Of course it's the same for the name "Central Africa" in our catalogue which should be "Central African States". Also here every single coin has written "ETATS DE L'AFRIQUE CENTRALE" on it, French for Central African States.

And the same for "Eastern Caribbean" which of course should be "East Caribbean States" like it is written on every single coin. "Eastern Caribbean" is a region, not a country.
EssorProf,

I completely agree, I have nothing to add either! Well said.

Ole
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
And an orphan finds a home...
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Quote: "Jarcek"​And correct name for that country should be?
​West African States
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Community_of_West_African_States).

Just as we have (or at least should have) Central African States
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Central_African_States).

BTW, I can make links on the phone.
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Quote: "Sjoelund"​​I completely agree, I have nothing to add either! Well said.

​I have one more thing to add. The correct names are West African States en Central African States, without the (BCEAO) and (BEAC) like it is now. These are just the abbreviations of the Bank. I'm from Belgium, not from Belgium (NBB), where NBB stands for National Bank of Belgium.
This is now fixed. Thanks!
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