sponsorenok
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Posted: 10-Apr-2018, 15:31
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Posted: 10-Apr-2018, 15:31
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Hello everyone, few days ago i have find this coins, but cant find info about them.
Please help me with identification and grade/estimate, if its possible.
Thanks before.
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CassTaylor
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Posted: 10-Apr-2018, 16:06
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Posted: 10-Apr-2018, 16:06
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Welcome to the forum; those are all lovely coins I'm jealous of.
Assuming all are crownsize:
No.1 seems to be closest to this Dutch Republic type:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces85676.html
(However it has the arms of Kampen
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces50993.html; perhaps a 28 Stuvier from there not yet in the catalogue?)
No. 2 is this one from the German state of Jever:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78546.html
No.3 is this one from the Dutch Republic:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces40626.html
No.4 seems to be this one from the Dutch Republic but the "TRAN" part of the legend I'm not sure about:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces114352.html
No.5 is this one from the Spanish Netherlands:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces61026.html
No.6 is most likely this one, possibly another Tyrol thaler type:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces102719.html
No.7 seems to be close to this one but part of the legend is different:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces31083.html
(I think the image on this page may be of another type since it is 1631 and the coin's date lines only go up to 1629)
No.8 is this one from Geneva:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces99764.html
PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 10-Apr-2018, 19:50
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Posted: 10-Apr-2018, 19:50
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Quote: "CassTaylor"Welcome to the forum; those are all lovely coins I'm jealous of.
Welcome!!!
Indeed very nice coins!!!!!
Perhaps you can send the pictures to Arie for his site:
http://www.bonatiele.nl/FDETUK/moderncoins.html
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sponsorenok
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Posted: 10-Apr-2018, 20:55
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Posted: 10-Apr-2018, 20:55
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Thank you for your help.
Thx for info abt Arie, I'm try it.
Also, where I can find info abt price?
Thx before
Ecapoe
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Posted: 11-Apr-2018, 08:41
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Posted: 11-Apr-2018, 08:41
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Hello,
Right for number 6. There are plenty of types.
The bust on yours is close to MT#267 on this sheet
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces99227.html
but with AVSTRI instead of AVSTRIA and end of obverse legend.
Is it ok to use your pictures to improve our descriptions ?
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PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 11-Apr-2018, 10:34
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Posted: 11-Apr-2018, 10:34
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On coin 5 you see FLAN.Z
That Z is a tyronian logogram.
You can read the history of this symbol here:
Edit:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwl7dpfkmpzcc9g/The%20Z%20on%20Latin%20coins.pdf?dl=0
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sponsorenok
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Posted: 11-Apr-2018, 14:36
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Posted: 11-Apr-2018, 14:36
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Quote: "Ecapoe"Hello,
Right for number 6. There are plenty of types.
The bust on yours is close to MT#267 on this sheet https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces99227.html
but with AVSTRI instead of AVSTRIA and end of obverse legend.
Is it ok to use your pictures to improve our descriptions ?
Thx.
Sure, you can use it.
PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 12-Apr-2018, 13:45
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Posted: 12-Apr-2018, 13:45
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4. I think the TRA comes from TRAJECTUM (Utrecht)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108375.html
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loruca
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Posted: 12-Apr-2018, 15:14
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Posted: 12-Apr-2018, 15:14
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Gosh I wish I could find something like this myself!
Beautiful coins!
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 12-Apr-2018, 22:34
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Quote: "loruca"Gosh I wish I could find something like this myself!
Beautiful coins!
yes yes!!!!
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sponsorenok
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Posted: 12-Apr-2018, 23:34
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Quote: "loruca"Gosh I wish I could find something like this myself!
Beautiful coins!
I have found together 8 coins(in post above) and 16 ort, 15 ort of Zygmunt 3 Waza and 1 Georg Wilgelm. One of Zygmunt is R6))
So its unbelievable for me, bcs im use Metal detector just one year!
gginga47
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Posted: 13-Apr-2018, 06:00
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Quote: "sponsorenok"
Quote: "loruca"Gosh I wish I could find something like this myself!
Beautiful coins!
I have found together 8 coins(in post above) and 16 ort, 15 ort of Zygmunt 3 Waza and 1 Georg Wilgelm. One of Zygmunt is R6))
So its unbelievable for me, bcs im use Metal detector just one year!
That is awesome. Guess I need to metal detect in Europe. Nice coins.
Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
sponsorenok
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Posted: 13-Apr-2018, 23:48
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Posted: 13-Apr-2018, 23:48
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Quote: "gginga47"
Quote: "sponsorenok"
Quote: "loruca"Gosh I wish I could find something like this myself!
Beautiful coins!
I have found together 8 coins(in post above) and 16 ort, 15 ort of Zygmunt 3 Waza and 1 Georg Wilgelm. One of Zygmunt is R6))
So its unbelievable for me, bcs im use Metal detector just one year!
That is awesome. Guess I need to metal detect in Europe. Nice coins.
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