Thematic tag list

127 posts

» Quick access to the last post

Hello,

Before releasing the new feature which adds thematic tags, we need to define the list of tags we want to add. As highlighted in the original post, we need to find the right balance between generic themes (e.g. animals), less generic (e.g. mammals, domestic animals) and specific themes (e.g. bovines, cows).
I suggest we start deciding the most desired tags, and we can expand progressively afterward.

Here is a start. Please give your opinion and complete the list with the tags you like.
  • FAO
  • Olympic Games
  • Coat of Arms
  • Chinese calendar
  • Coin on coin
  • Map
  • War
  • Tree
  • Flower
  • Bird
  • Fish
  • Train
  • Boat
  • Car
  • Plane
  • Space
  • Music
  • Literature
  • Dance
  • Painting

Then hopefully under >
Animals there will lion or horse, and so on.
Birds there will be eagle.
Coat of Arms there will be crown or wreath, or swastika for example.
Games will include Olympics and Commonwealth and South East Asia ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27371.html
Art will include Painting ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces6499.html

Not sure where coins with Britannia on would go.
Suggestions for thematic tags to be added:

Monarchs*
Politicians*
Warriors*
Scientists*
Explorers*
Authors (possibly overlap with Literature)*
Composers (possibly overlap with Music)*
Commonwealth Games
Monuments
Flags
Sun
Moon
Dinosaurs (possibly "Extinct animals")
Stamps on coins

*possibly "Famous persons"
Xavier
Do we give individual tags or do we get some kind of hierarchy. As an example we can have nature as a first level tag. And then go more specific, for example:
nature/animal/mammal
nature/animal/mammal/cow
nature/animal/fish
nature/animal/bird
nature/animal/bird/penguins
nature/animal/reptile
nature/animal/amphibian
nature/animal/fantasy
like this every coin with a "cow" tag is also included in nature, animals and mammals

Additionally for nature we could have extra separate tags for wildlife (for coins featuring animals (or plants) living in the wild), domesticated (as it says) and heraldic (to tag all the animals used as heraldic symbols or on Coat of Arms).

So under nature I'm thinking of sublevels:
animal - plant - landscape
Then: animal = mammal, bird, fish, reptile, amphibian, mollusc, bug (non-biologically correct group for insects, spiders, lice, centipedes, worms, crabs, corrals, ... could be split up more biologically correctly as well but then the list gets quite long for very few coins), fantasy, don't think I've yet seen coins featuring viruses or bacteria (... but might be wrong)
plants: trees, bushes, flowers, grass, crops, mushroom (again not biologically correct to define fungi as plants, but let's keep it simple)
landscape: forest, desert, sea, river, mountains, ... (can still be expanded as needed)

All these categories could then be split up even more specifically (cow, horse, lion, cat, dog, bat, ...) if there is someone prepared to look them all up and tag them. As I mentioned in my original post, it seems best to only create tags if there are users who will actively look up coins with that theme to tag them, so as to get a (fairly) complete overview. I'm willing to volunteer for nature (especially plants and animals)

Other example:
transport
boat/car/train/plane
boat: sailboat, steamer, military, ...
car: car, truck, bus
train: high speed, steamtrain, cargo train, ...
plane: propellor, ultrasonic, military, passenger plane, ...
Just call me Bram

Oh! And do read my profile page before you open a swap ...
@BramVB

I like how that sounds, +1 from me.
Quote: "BramVB"​Xavier
​Do we give individual tags or do we get some kind of hierarchy. As an example we can have nature as a first level tag. And then go more specific, for example:
​nature/animal/mammal
​nature/animal/mammal/cow
​nature/animal/fish
​nature/animal/bird
​nature/animal/bird/penguins
​nature/animal/reptile
​nature/animal/amphibian
​nature/animal/fantasy
​like this every coin with a "cow" tag is also included in nature, animals and mammals

​Additionally for nature we could have extra separate tags for wildlife (for coins featuring animals (or plants) living in the wild), domesticated (as it says) and heraldic (to tag all the animals used as heraldic symbols or on Coat of Arms).

​So under nature I'm thinking of sublevels:
​animal - plant - landscape
​Then: animal = mammal, bird, fish, reptile, amphibian, mollusc, bug (non-biologically correct group for insects, spiders, lice, centipedes, worms, crabs, corrals, ... could be split up more biologically correctly as well but then the list gets quite long for very few coins), fantasy, don't think I've yet seen coins featuring viruses or bacteria (... but might be wrong)
​plants: trees, bushes, flowers, grass, crops, mushroom (again not biologically correct to define fungi as plants, but let's keep it simple)
​landscape: forest, desert, sea, river, mountains, ... (can still be expanded as needed)

​All these categories could then be split up even more specifically (cow, horse, lion, cat, dog, bat, ...) if there is someone prepared to look them all up and tag them. As I mentioned in my original post, it seems best to only create tags if there are users who will actively look up coins with that theme to tag them, so as to get a (fairly) complete overview. I'm willing to volunteer for nature (especially plants and animals)

​Other example:
​transport
​boat/car/train/plane
​boat: sailboat, steamer, military, ...
​car: car, truck, bus
​train: high speed, steamtrain, cargo train, ...
​plane: propellor, ultrasonic, military, passenger plane, ...
​I don't know if this would be easily implemented but I think also that this would be the best way to go.
This would make it easier to have only a few first tier Tags and then this way can also go into very detailed.
If you like coins, medals and tokens with ship motives follow my new instagram account with regular updates @numisnautiker
From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
Hello.
I propose to add also: medicine, race, architecture, fortresses, weapons, animation, cinema, rewards, sport, football, hockey, religion, holidays, wedding, coronation, revolution, Christmas / new year, disasters, exhibitions.
Coinciding with Mythology, I would go by National Symbols. Like for example that one side on Mexican coins with a bird and snake. It is an animal, but also a symbol. Same with the Russian St.George killing the serpent and so on.

Anyway, we don´t really need "domesticated animals" that much...
It is possible to have "Animals" as a primary group and secondary then:
  • Fish
  • Amphibian (may/may not be)
  • Reptile
  • Bird
  • Mammal
+ for domesticated:
  • Cow
  • Goat
  • Sheep
  • Cat
  • Dog
and so on... plus
  • Fantasy
I think this feature will be more useful if you let users type their own tags, rather than from a list.
As suggested in the original post, we could also add personal tags. But I'd prefer to be able to see my effort of sorting through all the coins looking for animals also be used by other users ... or share the burden of this with other users.

So, yes to personal tags, but for these general themes I think we should all cooperate to get them tagged for public use!

Suggestion for personal tags: just add a personal comment field for the coin page that can be searched. This field can then be used to put in tags or other comments per coin type (now only possible for the year lines).
Just call me Bram

Oh! And do read my profile page before you open a swap ...
Quote: "Cerulean"​I think this feature will be more useful if you let users type their own tags, rather than from a list.
​If we let users add all the tags they want we will have a big amount of useless tags with only one or two coins for some of them and sometimes almost identical : #grappe #grappes #grapeseed #grapeleaf ...
Phrygian slave cap
eyeglasses
mechanical
trains
planes
automobiles
flowers
horse & rider
statues
depictions of water
by name of designer, for example, Stuart Devlin
nude
hats
mustaches
race cars
nautical
children
monarchs
royalty
gods
goddesses
world leaders
UN
barbed wire
war
battle
banknote
flag
monument
memorial
jewelry
cartoon
wreaths
religious imagery
books
games
jugate busts
Rose's
patterns
probas/pro as
essay
piedfort
matte
balloons
blimps
dirigible
airship
space craft
space shuttle
trees
mythology
basketball
soccer
world cup

for starters
Library Media Specialist, columnist, collector, and gardener...
Exhibition/Exposition
Religious
Educational
Science
Art
Industry
Trade & Commerce
Breeding
Death
Anniversary of Reign
Prize/Achievement
Mining
Agriculture
Horticulture
Baptism
Marriage
Reformation
Aviation
Zeppelin
Pope
WWI
WWII
Architecture
Insurance
Shooting festival
Battle/Naval battle
Crowning/coronation
Siege
Exploration
Rail/Train
Bridge
Church
Castle
Wreath
Laurel
Oak
Mint

Some Personalities have more than 1000 coins + Medals so need own tags:
Martin Luther
Otto von Bismarck
Napoleon Bonaparte
Mary
Jesus

Tags for Medailleur
Caqué
Lauer
Karl Götz
Andrieu
Domard
Denon
Brenet
If you like coins, medals and tokens with ship motives follow my new instagram account with regular updates @numisnautiker
From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
Quote: "apuking"
Tags for Medailleur
​Caqué
​Lauer
​Karl Götz
​Andrieu
​Domard
​Denon
​Brenet
I think we don't need those tags as they can be find by using the advanced search tool (engraver field).
I know Xavier mentioned War but what about Military in general? I've seen a lot of military related coins that don't necessarily belong with any war.

Matt
Quote: "apuking"​Exhibition/Exposition
​Religious
​Educational
​Science
​Art
​Industry
​Trade & Commerce
​Breeding
​Death
​Anniversary of Reign
​Prize/Achievement
​Mining
​Agriculture
​Horticulture
​Baptism
​Marriage
​Reformation
​Aviation
​Zeppelin
​Pope
​WWI
​WWII
​Architecture
​Insurance
​Shooting festival
​Battle/Naval battle
​Crowning/coronation
​Siege
​Exploration
​Rail/Train
​Bridge
​Church
​Castle
​Wreath
​Laurel
​Oak
​Mint

Some Personalities have more than 1000 coins + Medals so need own tags:
​Martin Luther
​Otto von Bismarck
​Napoleon Bonaparte
​Mary
​Jesus

Tags for Medailleur
​Caqué
​Lauer
​Karl Götz
​Andrieu
​Domard
​Denon
​Brenet
​First one is not really necessary.
Breeding, death, anniversary - the same way
Many of the others are either too strict or too generic to collect (Wreath, Laurel)
Why not Exhibition?
That is about 100-200 coins, around 2000 tokens and about 5000 medals.
and a well collected field, even I know at least two on Numista which do.

Death and anniversary is relating to ruler, from the 15th to 19th century almost all commemorating coins relate to these two events.

Breeding yes maybe not needed, I added it as I in the last few years I saw large exclusive medal collections being sold about Pigeon breeding, Dog breeding and one about horse breeding.

Yes agree Wreath or Laurel is probably too generic and too much focussed.

Probably right about engraver as well, problem here why a search is so difficult is that the engraver's name is often written in many different ways which make a search nearly impossible.
If you like coins, medals and tokens with ship motives follow my new instagram account with regular updates @numisnautiker
From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
Quote: "apuking"​Why not Exhibition?
​That is about 100-200 coins, around 2000 tokens and about 5000 medals.
​and a well collected field, even I know at least two on Numista which do.

​Death and anniversary is relating to ruler, from the 15th to 19th century almost all commemorating coins relate to these two events.

​Breeding yes maybe not needed, I added it as I in the last few years I saw large exclusive medal collections being sold about Pigeon breeding, Dog breeding and one about horse breeding.

​Yes agree Wreath or Laurel is probably too generic and too much focussed.

​Probably right about engraver as well, problem here why a search is so difficult is that the engraver's name is often written in many different ways which make a search nearly impossible.
​​Exhibition is ok for tokens and medals as they usually have it written on them or there is a clue to it, but the amount of coins that have it written is rather smaller, but yes, those "known to be commemorating exhibition" are in range of 100-200.

Death and anniversary. Well, both are kind of associated with monarch and it is rather easy to get the results for strictly "death of a monarch/politician/whoever else" or anniversary of him/her. Those I would put under "Famous people" and under respective "Monarch", "Politician", "Actor", etc.

Breeding could be medal-exclusive. There aren´t many coins with this theme and those that are could be covered by different tags.

Wreath and/or laurel are on at least a half of all circulate-able coins.

And for engravers. I think that if referees have enough spare time, it could be fixed.
We decided to start with rather smaller number of generic tags. Will see how this will work out.
Catalogue administrator
When it´s expected to be implemented, Jarcek ?
Quote: "superman43"​When it´s expected to be implemented, Jarcek ?
​Quite soon. We have tested it and everything works fine, I believe it should not take long.

Sneak peek. B) (It can be subject to change)

Catalogue administrator
Wait, so do referees have to go through all the coins in countries we referee for to add the tags manually?

:x I feel fatigued already...
Is there a way how to make it automatized? I dont believe so.
Catalogue administrator
Quote: "Jarcek"​Is there a way how to make it automatized? I dont believe so.
​I was hoping so.... :D
Members can request adding a tag to coin by normal request.
Catalogue administrator
Jarcek, in your example I seem to only see only one field for a tag. Will it be possible to add multiple tags? I hope so (FAO often contains animals or plants).

In my proposal I had suggested to have a thematic referee. This person can then keep an overview of a specific theme so that there is a consistency in the application of tags (especially when they start getting more specific). Having a thematic referee hopefully also will help to get these coins to be actively added to the theme, because you can add a nice tag like "Olympic Games", but if nobody actively adds the tags ... there's no point having it in the list. If somebody already has a collection of a specific theme (coins in collection + coins I want), it will be much easier to tag than if a country referee is expected to go through all his/her coins.

Maybe changes to tags could be sent to the specific thematic referee for acceptance, as to not burden the country referee and to keep the consistency in every theme.
Just call me Bram

Oh! And do read my profile page before you open a swap ...
Yes, one coin can have multiple tags. Regarding other things - there is set list of possible tags for now. It is not possible for user to write down new one.
Catalogue administrator
Thank you for your suggestions!
I implemented the idea to have a hierarchy of tags. To keep it simple, there are only 2 levels so far.
I tried to make a selection of tags based on your inputs, and we can add more in the future.
You can see the current list on the advanced search.
Just modified this coin sheet with a double tag (probably only circulating coin with a dino and also has some old coin-on-coin), you can select multiple tags by pressing the control-key.

Let's get going and see how it goes, don't have time right now, but hope to be able to add a few hundred nature tags later this summer.
Just call me Bram

Oh! And do read my profile page before you open a swap ...
Tags now validated ... btw where is the coin on coin on this example?
Agreed - I have submitted a request to remove that tag. Thanks :)

I made a list of the current tags ...
Agriculture
Allegory
[Animal] Bird
[Animal] Cat
[Animal] Dinosaur
[Animal] Dog
[Animal] Fish
[Animal] Horse
[Art] Dance
[Art] Literature
[Art] Music
[Art] Painting
[Astrology] Chinese calendar
[Astrology] Western Astrological sign
[Building] Castle
[Building] Church
Coat of Arms
Coin on coin
FAO
Flag
[Games] Commonwealth Games
[Games] Summer Olympic Games
[Games] Winter Olympic Games
Hat
Industry
Map
Marriage
Millennium
Mustache
Mythology
[Plant] Flower
[Plant] Tree
Science
Space
[Sport] Soccer
Trade
[Transport] Boat
[Transport] Car
[Transport] Plane
[Transport] Train
United Nations
War

I could do with [Animal] Horse plus a general Animal tag, as I have seen a lot already that do not
fit in to the six current Animal tags. :)

Or better still an Other tag in each of the 26 main sections - so that while on a particular coin page a member could click that so at some time in future (when more categories are added that match the coin) someone could just look at Other and move them across.
Such as [Animal] Other would include a Snake as there is no category [Animal] Snake currently.
Animals need those:
Other (as said by ZacUK) or just diving it into: Reptiles, other Mammals (as some are already categories) and Others (including sea star coins from Bahamas and other coins with Protostomes - like bees, crabs and so on)

Question about existing animal tags.
Tigers, Leopards, Jaguars, Lions, other Felines = Cats ?
Foxes, Wolves = Dogs ?
Just noticed that when I add tags to new coin pages, these are not registered in the validated coin page.
Referee for Ancient Greece,  Norway and the Kingdom of Cyprus
@ZacUK
If common animals are getting more specific tags I'd make an argument to find the more commonly-depicted animals on coins and get tags for those created.

Predictions include:

Lion (heraldic or otherwise)
Eagle (on many German, Russian, Austrian, US, Mexican, etc. coins; worth differentiating from "bird" tag)
Dragon (Imperial Chinese coinage)
Horse (as already said)

Is there anywhere to submit suggestions for tags or is it just the forum thread?
Quote: "Stavros"​Just noticed that when I add tags to new coin pages, these are not registered in the validated coin page.
​This is fixed.
No, it is not, Xavier. Tried to edit the coin sheets of Macedonian coins (adding the "Animal-something" tag), while adding the "cat" tag to a 5 Denari coin with lynx (not realizing it sooner though) it stated "You didn´t make any modification". And below the catalogue there isn´t the option of showing the modifications, so I suppose my effort on adding tags to 50 Deni and all 1 and 2 Denari was futile.
Quote: "superman43"​No, it is not, Xavier. Tried to edit the coin sheets of Macedonian coins (adding the "Animal-something" tag), while adding the "cat" tag to a 5 Denari coin with lynx (not realizing it sooner though) it stated "You didn´t make any modification". And below the catalogue there isn´t the option of showing the modifications, so I suppose my effort on adding tags to 50 Deni and all 1 and 2 Denari was futile.
​Now this is fixed as well ;)
Xavier, I would add to the "Animal" tag section these:
Reptile
Dove (many coins depict it)
Cow/Bull (maybe Goats and Sheep as well, but Cows/Bulls are on many more coins)
Chicken
Crustacean (= lobsters, shrimps, crabs, crayfish)
Bee


Other more "common" animals on coins:
Elephant
Camel
Antelope
Turtle

Rhino (possible)
Bear

Aquatic mammal (or maybe just dolphin ?)
Other
I am sure, some time in the future, the Country field in the catalogue will also become a tag list.
Referee for Spain, Iberia (ancient), Suebi Kingdom and Visigothic Kingdom
Quote: "zegeri"​I am sure, some time in the future, the Country field in the catalogue will also become a tag list.
​That would cause chaos.
I have a question, the tags can be used to describe mintmarks ?

Hundred of coins of mine have mintmarks of bees, fishs, etc
Lets adopt the KISS philosophy, "Keep It Simple Sucker"
Quote: "trvrhldr"​Hundred of coins of mine have mintmarks of bees, fishs, etc

​Please don't, then you can just as well start adding all the coat of arms with some miniature lion or eagle ... I think the tags are for coins where the theme is a clear part of the design
Just call me Bram

Oh! And do read my profile page before you open a swap ...
Quote: "trvrhldr"​I have a question, the tags can be used to describe mintmarks ?

​Hundred of coins of mine have mintmarks of bees, fishs, etc
​No.
Tag is for the coin design itself but NOT for mintmarks or engravers marks.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Quote: "CassTaylor"​@ZacUK
​If common animals are getting more specific tags I'd make an argument to find the more commonly-depicted animals on coins and get tags for those created.

​Predictions include:

​Lion (heraldic or otherwise)
​Eagle (on many German, Russian, Austrian, US, Mexican, etc. coins; worth differentiating from "bird" tag)
​Dragon (Imperial Chinese coinage)
​Horse (as already said)

​Is there anywhere to submit suggestions for tags or is it just the forum thread?
​I am all in for heraldic Lion. There is not really a need for it as an animal, but if it´s easier to do then... all Heraldic Lions would have: Animal - Lion + Heraldry tags and others just the first one.
Same with Eagle.

Other than that, I seriously ask if what I wanted to do will be taken as is. That means inclusion of:
jaguars, tigers, leopards and other big or small cats under the tag "Cat"
foxes and wolves under the tag "Dog"

And then, I would like to include the propose tags by me ASAP. As they would ease most of the additions.
Hello, aside from the above "lion is cat" issue

for a coin like this
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2452.html
i got a request to add #flag , keeping in mind the flags are part of the coat of arms, rather than a design
what to do in this case?
Catalog Master Referee & Referee for UAE
https://www.instagram.com/amer.coins
Amer Salmeh
Amer, for me, myself, that Algerian coin would be "coat of arms" not "flag".

And here is the reason:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces11663.html

That is what I consider an adept for a "flag" tag.
Quote: "CassTaylor"​Suggestions for thematic tags to be added:

​Monarchs*
​Politicians*
​Warriors*
​Scientists*
​Explorers*
​Authors (possibly overlap with Literature)*
​Composers (possibly overlap with Music)*
​Commonwealth Games
​Monuments
​Flags
​Sun
​Moon
​Dinosaurs (possibly "Extinct animals")
​Stamps on coins

​*possibly "Famous persons"


​Hello!
I believe that "Famous Personalities" is generic enough to encompass all personalities.
Wilson Roberto Vasques Nunes.
Banknote catalog referee for Brazil.
Quote: "superman43"​Amer, for me, myself, that Algerian coin would be "coat of arms" not "flag".

​And here is the reason:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces11663.html

​That is what I consider an adept for a "flag" tag.
​You both are thinking in a taxonomic classification of the coins. Think you folksonomic. The Algerian coin may be flag, coat of arms, hamsa, moon, star, one-year issue, first-year issue, lower-value issue and a few more... all at the same time.
Referee for Spain, Iberia (ancient), Suebi Kingdom and Visigothic Kingdom
Quote: "zegeri"
Quote: "superman43"​Amer, for me, myself, that Algerian coin would be "coat of arms" not "flag".
​​
​​And here is the reason:
​​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces11663.html
​​
​​That is what I consider an adept for a "flag" tag.
​​You both are thinking in a taxonomic classification of the coins. Think you folksonomic. The Algerian coin may be flag, coat of arms, hamsa, moon, star, one-year issue, first-year issue, lower-value issue and a few more... all at the same time.
​LOL at "lower-value issue" or "first-year issue". But, ok, flag, coat of arms and moon would be appropriate tags.
Hello guys!
Putting into practice the inclusion of tags, I realize that if you implement Tags with two or more levels, it will be very complex over time.
I suggest therefore a level only, as for example:
Agriculture
Allegory
Animal
Art
Astrology
Building
Coat of Arms
Coin on coin
FAO
Flag
Games (replaceable with sports only)
Hat
Industry
Map
Marriage
Millennium
Mustache
Mythology
Personalities
Plant
Science
Space
Sport
Trade
Transport
United Nations
War
Others
Wilson Roberto Vasques Nunes.
Banknote catalog referee for Brazil.
How will you include new tags? There should be a place for inclusion by the users and a well-trained mediator could validate or not the new suggestions.
Wilson Roberto Vasques Nunes.
Banknote catalog referee for Brazil.
To answer one real and one obvious question.

If the coin has for example a lion in coat of arms, it will get only tag for coat of arms. Tags are for coin "subjects" and heraldic lion is not a subject of that coin.

And ahem, lion is not a cat.
Catalogue administrator
Quote: "Jarcek"​To answer one real and one obvious question.

​If the coin has for example a lion in coat of arms, it will get only tag for coat of arms. Tags are for coin "subjects" and heraldic lion is not a subject of that coin.

​And ahem, lion is not a cat.
​that does answer my 2 questions, thank you.
I will keep the requests pending for a while to make sure this is how you are going forward - coz I'm afraid that hasnt been followed as it wasnt clear
Catalog Master Referee & Referee for UAE
https://www.instagram.com/amer.coins
Amer Salmeh
I'm also thinking we need more specific tags for common animals, e.g. Lion, Elephant, etc.
Quote: "wilsonrvnunes"
Quote: "CassTaylor"​​*possibly "Famous persons"
​​
​​
​​
​​Hello!
​I believe that "Famous Personalities" is generic enough to encompass all personalities.
​I disagree, too generic;
Napoleon was known for very different things than Louis Pasteur was. It would be (IMO) like listing "Mammal" for all coins featuring Lions, Horses, etc... We shouldn't go too far in the other direction either, but a reasonable compromise might be basic categories of famous people:

Politicians
Scientists
Artists
Hello.
Do I understand correctly that a tag is not a specific subject / thing, but a general theme?
This means that the "boat" is a common theme for a boat, for a ship, a sailboat, a catamaran, a steamer, a yacht, a racing boat, a frigate, an aircraft carrier, a cruise liner, a submarine and so on?
"Plane" - for the aeroplane of Wright brothers, a fighter and a passenger liner?
If I'm wrong, correct me please. 0:)
Thank you.
Quote: "Cyrillius"​Hello.
​Do I understand correctly that a tag is not a specific subject / thing, but a general theme?
​This means that the "boat" is a common theme for a boat, for a ship, a sailboat, a catamaran, a steamer, a yacht, a racing boat, a frigate, an aircraft carrier, a cruise liner, a submarine and so on?
​"Plane" - for the aeroplane of Wright brothers, a fighter and a passenger liner?
​If I'm wrong, correct me please. 0:)
​Thank you.
It appears that is the case as it stands now, but it is not an ideal one in my eyes. :(
Quote: "Jarcek"​And ahem, lion is not a cat.
​Well it sure ain't a dog! :O
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Coin catalogue referee for England, United Kingdom & pre-Union South Africa.
Banknote catalogue referee for England & United Kingdom.
Quote: "Cyrillius"​Hello.
​Do I understand correctly that a tag is not a specific subject / thing, but a general theme?
​This means that the "boat" is a common theme for a boat, for a ship, a sailboat, a catamaran, a steamer, a yacht, a racing boat, a frigate, an aircraft carrier, a cruise liner, a submarine and so on?
​"Plane" - for the aeroplane of Wright brothers, a fighter and a passenger liner?
​If I'm wrong, correct me please. 0:)
​Thank you.
​In my own humble opinion, that is an incongruous analogy. You are right that 'plane' can cover anything from 'paper plane' through 'biplane' and on to 'jet plane', so all good there. However, boats and ships are not similes and are not interchangeable. A cruise 'ship' has many 'lifeboats' but Cunard's Queen Mary II is not a boat and a dinghy floating on a pond is not a ship.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Coin catalogue referee for England, United Kingdom & pre-Union South Africa.
Banknote catalogue referee for England & United Kingdom.
A lion is not a domestic cat, but it sure is a cat in the general meaning
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felidae
Just call me Bram

Oh! And do read my profile page before you open a swap ...
Radrick007, I think we both understand whose question we are discussing. :°
It just seems to me that this tag is not quite rightly named.
Interestingly, can Xavier rename existing tags?
Quote: "Cyrillius"​Radrick007, I think we both understand whose question we are discussing. :°
​It just seems to me that this tag is not quite rightly named.
​#floating ?
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Coin catalogue referee for England, United Kingdom & pre-Union South Africa.
Banknote catalogue referee for England & United Kingdom.
More or less ... The "Ship" seems to me more understandable. But I'm just interested.
Quote: "Cyrillius"​Interestingly, can Xavier rename existing tags?
​Either rename, or robot can be used to re-tag all with current tag.

Xavier asked us to present all tag suggestion at the next meeting.
Catalogue administrator
I agree that ship could be better than boat. While you cannot use boat for some large ships, you can always euphemistically call your small boat as your mighty ship. It is the same as when you refer to yoir home as to your castle, ot when you call your cat a lion. B. Oops, I wandered too far....
Catalogue administrator
Quote: "BramVB"​A lion is not a domestic cat, but it sure is a cat in the general meaning
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felidae
​I think a good solution for this might be to use the tag "Feline".

But the fancy derivations might not be recognisable for most ignorant people, especially for less common ones like "Lupine", "Equine", "Ursine", etc.
Quote: "Cycnos"
Quote: "Cerulean"​I think this feature will be more useful if you let users type their own tags, rather than from a list.
​​If we let users add all the tags they want we will have a big amount of useless tags with only one or two coins for some of them and sometimes almost identical : #grappe #grappes #grapeseed #grapeleaf ...
​I agree. That will be "an amount of useless"-tags.
Look at the "Face Value in Words" Searching in that field is sometimes difficult; some are entering fe. ECU or ECUS or ÉCU or ÉCUS or ..... ; same is by using by "METAL"; and other fields.

And in that way I don't talk about "typing-errors".
With regards.
Bert.
Netherlands.
I like the ideal in general. But well be very hard to define. Like the Brazil 1 Cruzeiro Km #590 as it listed as a tree. "also see # tree". It is sugarcane a grass not a tree.
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2247.html
Sugarcane has a big history with humans,bad and good.
It is, what it is, or is it.
Boat should be fixed into: Ship/Boat in the future. :°<:D
Catalogue administrator
Quote: "Xavier"​Here is a start. Please give your opinion and complete the list with the tags you like.

  • Coat of Arms
I know I'm late in the game, and I've got a lot of requests for adding thags. But the tag Coat of Arms seems really pointless to me. About 90% of all coins bears the Coat of Arms. Then we culd just add the tag "king", "queen", and "president". Shouldn't the tags be more specific than that?
Coin referee for: AZE, FRO, GRL, US-HI, KOR, KGZ, MLI, MHL, MMR, PRK, UZB, SML, TAT, TWN, TJK
Banknote referee for: AGO, AZE, BLR, ECS, GEO, HTI, KAZ, KGZ, KOR, MNG, MRT, PMR, PRK, ROK, SWE, TJK, TKM, TUR, UZB, WSM, ZWE
Agree Coat of Arms seems quite pointless as it covers almost all coins.
If you like coins, medals and tokens with ship motives follow my new instagram account with regular updates @numisnautiker
From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
Please put up "POW" tag. There are a lot of coins from prisoner of war camps from time of first world war and other coins minted later on, remembering such events.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=POW&p=1&x=0&y=0

thank you!
I just got https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21620.html
Maybe a "caduceus" tag would be nice, there a lot of coins with this medicine mark.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?mode=simplifie&p=1&l=&r=caduceus&e=&d=&ca=3&no=&i=&v=&m=&a=&t=&dg=&w=&u=&f=&g=&c=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&te=y&cat=y
Best regards
I think that among the animals there should be lion, and moreover, we need also a generic tag animal that includes also the more specific animal related tags.
CirculableCoins
Fleur-de-lis pehaps?
Hi,

here is a list of last tags added:

Sport:
  • Basketball
  • Hockey
  • Swimming
  • Volleyball
  • Athletics
  • Ski
  • Gymnastics
  • Rugby
  • Tennis
  • Table tennis
  • Cricket

Art:
  • Sculpture

Building:
  • Tower

Animal:
  • Turtle
  • Eagle
  • Dragon
  • Insect
  • Elephant
  • Bear
  • Marine mammal
  • Shell

New categories:
Landscape
  • Mountain
  • Lake
  • Sea (generic tag gathering both sea/ocean)
  • Desert

Event
  • Coronation
  • Birth anniversary
  • Death anniversary


For new addition request, you may now use the ticket system by posting a new topic and selecting the box "Requesting a new coin tag" so an easier/better follow-up may be done compared to a thread. :D
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Funny adition:

Nor sheep or goat has its tag, because the team is currently preoccupied with definition of goats and sheep. In other words, we are not exactly sure which is which on some coins. :D
Catalogue administrator
Perhaps can be added:

Portrait
Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.
There are only these building tags: Castle, Chursch, Tower.

Some coins have other buildings: Palace, or headquarters (for example: congress, banks). Can be useful add a general tag Building.
Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.
Quote: "davidhs"​Perhaps can be added:

​Portrait
​that and coa is like 99.9% of all coins..
Coin referee for: AZE, FRO, GRL, US-HI, KOR, KGZ, MLI, MHL, MMR, PRK, UZB, SML, TAT, TWN, TJK
Banknote referee for: AGO, AZE, BLR, ECS, GEO, HTI, KAZ, KGZ, KOR, MNG, MRT, PMR, PRK, ROK, SWE, TJK, TKM, TUR, UZB, WSM, ZWE
Can be added more tags:

Building:

Culture https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces75757.html

Event:

Games:
  • Olympic Games (in general, no Summer/Winter)
Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.
Panda
Unicorn
ROMAE AETERNAE
As mentioned above, to submit a tag request please post a new topic and select the box "Requesting a new coin tag".

This way we can follow-up on the various tags, avoid to miss requests, and inform for each request if it is accepted, rejected, still in discussion, etc.

You may post yourself several tags within the same post but do not comment/reply to other members post with your own tags after (still comments on the tags proposed are more than welcome of course)...otherwise we come back to a messy thread and miss lots of tags submitted. (8

@davidhs: Portrait is too generic and as mentioned by ngdawa, it applies to way too many coins.

@druzhynets: Panda and Unicorn are to be discussed and are already on another topic with proper request for tag ticket.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Quote: "pejounet"​As mentioned above, to submit a tag request please post a new topic and select the box "Requesting a new coin tag".
Thank you, I did not see this. I will create a tag request. ;)
Quote: "pejounet"​@davidhs: Portrait is too generic and as mentioned by ngdawa, it applies to way too many coins.
Ok, I will not request this.
Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.
I think we need to have a Ship tag!
ROMAE AETERNAE
Quote: "druzhynets"​I think we need to have a Ship tag!
​We already have boat, and if I am right, it is about to change to ship, as ship was deemed more general and of course, more often depicted on coins.
Catalogue administrator
Quote: "Jarcek"
Quote: "druzhynets"​I think we need to have a Ship tag!
​​We already have boat, and if I am right, it is about to change to ship, as ship was deemed more general and of course, more often depicted on coins.
Oh, I've missed that one. Indeed, ship would be a more generic word.
ROMAE AETERNAE
Hello Xavier.

Seems to me It is time to extend tag list.

Lets start from Mammals:

I have just looked thru animals .. could not find even - "Mammal" tag, let alone subtags of animals - could find only a few like Dog, Camel. Horse, Cat, etc.

Is t possible to add more tags?
Would it be done , I could find time to link coins to different Mammals.

Thanks.
Best regards,
afpcoins
Quote: "afpcoins"​Hello Xavier.

​Seems to me It is time to extend tag list.

​Lets start from Mammals:

​I have just looked thru animals .. could not find even - "Mammal" tag, let alone subtags of animals - could find only a few like Dog, Camel. Horse, Cat, etc.

​Is t possible to add more tags?
​Would it be done , I could find time to link coins to different Mammals.

​Thanks.


Yes additions are planned, some still being discussed.

​As mentioned above, you can open a new topic on the Numista Catalog forum with your proposed tags in it and select the box "request about coin tag". This way we can track the various requests and have a more efficient follow-up.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
New category added:
  • Place

New tags added:

Place
  • Park
  • Town

Animals
  • Ovine
  • Bovine
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Quote: "pejounet"New category added:

  • Place


New tags added:

​Place

  • Park

  • Town


​Animals

  • Ovine

  • Bovine

How should I tag a Caribou (Reindeer)? Lots of Canadian coins have Caribou.
To date, no tag for Caribou could go with.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Quote: "Tanvir03"​How should I tag a Caribou (Reindeer)? Lots of Canadian coins have Caribou.
I made a request for "Deer".
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic73085.html#p673725
Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.
Hi All! I just did a major run through adding tags to coins that I have in my collection, and the following list would have been beneficial. When creating new tags I'd give priority to those in bold. Thanks!
  • Book
  • Marsupial
  • Kangaroo
  • Monotreme
  • Reptile
  • Lizard
  • Marine Invertebrate
  • Starfish
  • Crab
  • Pig
  • Rabbit
  • Deer
  • Rodent
  • Beaver
  • Weasel
  • Lion
  • Bull
  • Chicken
  • Amphibian
  • Grain
  • Fruit (under plant)
  • Cactus
  • Leaf
  • Fern
  • Sprig (as in grain, olive, oak, etc. Would be best under plant)
  • Wreath
  • Food
  • Sun
  • Moon
  • Star
  • Anniversary
  • Windmill
  • Lighthouse
  • Governmental Building
  • Monogram
  • Axe
  • Sword
  • Gun
  • Tool
  • Religious Figure (e.g., bishop, saint, Jesus)
  • Volcano
  • Bridge
  • River
“Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.”
As mentioned several times above :D create a topic with propositions and tick the box "request about tag" otherwise we'll miss some requests.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Quote: "pejounet"​As mentioned several times above :D create a topic with propositions and tick the box "request about tag" otherwise we'll miss some requests.
​Sorry, I can't find the "Request About Tag" box to check...
“Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.”
Quote: "TwelveSilverPennies"
Quote: "pejounet"​As mentioned several times above :D create a topic with propositions and tick the box "request about tag" otherwise we'll miss some requests.
​​Sorry, I can't find the "Request About Tag" box to check...

​You see this checkbox when create a topic in Numista catalog board https://en.numista.com/forum/forum14.html

Before create your request you can see other similar requests. You can add your request in those. For example, this topic have tags for animals https://en.numista.com/forum/topic73085.html
Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.
Quote: "davidhs"
Quote: "TwelveSilverPennies"
Quote: "pejounet"​As mentioned several times above :D create a topic with propositions and tick the box "request about tag" otherwise we'll miss some requests.
​​​Sorry, I can't find the "Request About Tag" box to check...

​​You see this checkbox when create a topic in Numista catalog board https://en.numista.com/forum/forum14.html

​Before create your request you can see other similar requests. You can add your request in those. For example, this topic have tags for animals https://en.numista.com/forum/topic73085.html
​Thank you!
“Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.”
Quote: "CassTaylor"​@ZacUK
​If common animals are getting more specific tags I'd make an argument to find the more commonly-depicted animals on coins and get tags for those created.

​Predictions include:

​Lion (heraldic or otherwise)
​Eagle (on many German, Russian, Austrian, US, Mexican, etc. coins; worth differentiating from "bird" tag)
​Dragon (Imperial Chinese coinage)
​Horse (as already said)

​Is there anywhere to submit suggestions for tags or is it just the forum thread?
​I wonder what to do with the "heraldic eagles" now that we have the tag "eagle"?
Quote: "Cyrillius"
​​I wonder what to do with the "heraldic eagles" now that we have the tag "eagle"?
​I'd say, as long as it's an eagle :D
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.

» Forum policy

Used time zone is UTC+1:00.
Current time is 11:17.