1621 Lippe-Detmold (12 Kreuzer)

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Looking for a litle help on two Lippe-Detmold (12 Kreuzer)...

It appears that Krause list the following two variation of the 1621 Kreuzers and both appear to match the description of KM#38 which has the GS in the obverse legend. What's different about them is that the reverses legends don't match each other and the coat of arms seems to be different than what's posted on the NGC website. Can some provide an opinion?

LIPPE-DETMOLD 12 Kreuzer KM# 37
Obverse Legend: LANDTMVNZ - ZV -
Reverse: Date in legend
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-lippe-detmold-12-kreuzer-km-37-1621-cuid-1138714-duid-1338225

LIPPE-DETMOLD 12 Kreuzer KM# 38
Obverse: Legend ends GS
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-lippe-detmold-12-kreuzer-km-38-1621-cuid-1136605-duid-1338226





Many thanks
SJK
Indded not well presented by KM here, first coins legend seems to end in GSE. and second one with GS: also the eagle side is the reverse and not the obverse. Helmeted arms show quite clear different legend.
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