billydilly
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Posted: 7-Jun-2019, 17:50
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Posted: 7-Jun-2019, 17:50
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Hi guys. Straight forward question: How much will i have to expect a FRANCE SILVER 5 FRANCS 1809 - 1814 NAPOLEON to cost at different variations of quality. As an example; whats this one worth? Napoelon coins are dramatically overpriced, i am sure, but still....
apuking
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Posted: 7-Jun-2019, 18:13
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Posted: 7-Jun-2019, 18:13
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This site has quite well fitting catalogue values for french coins
https://www.lefranc.net/monnaie,5-francs-napol-on-empereur-empire-fran-ais,307.html
the pictured coin has quite a few cuts and bruises but still has a attractive look with an old patina
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billydilly
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Posted: 7-Jun-2019, 18:57
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Posted: 7-Jun-2019, 18:57
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Thanks for the feedback
. What kind of grade would you give the exact coin pictured? Lots of dents etc, but pretty nice look to it still.
apuking
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Posted: 7-Jun-2019, 19:02
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Posted: 7-Jun-2019, 19:02
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I would say a bit too much wear for XF but a solid VF+ with attractive toning (but as I said also some shocks and older scratches)
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Didi99
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Posted: 8-Jun-2019, 00:20
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Posted: 8-Jun-2019, 00:20
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I agree Apuking VF (TB in french) and a nice patina
L mintmark stands for Bayonne so here you can compare conditions and prices:
https://www.cgb.fr/boutique_recherche,JF08EE02C79046A1.html
billydilly
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Posted: 8-Jun-2019, 19:17
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Posted: 8-Jun-2019, 19:17
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The coin pictured was at sale for 75 USD on EBAY. No bids. Does this mean its an obvious fake or is that price actually too high?
apuking
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Posted: 8-Jun-2019, 20:30
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Posted: 8-Jun-2019, 20:30
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That sound like a reasonable price.
I have no doubt about its authenticity.
Ebay is a bidding site so people prefer bids starting at 1€
could well have reached a price of over 75 if auction started at 1€ but its always a gamble, but one that I believe is worth it for most of the times with 1€ auction price starts
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Didi99
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Posted: 8-Jun-2019, 20:30
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Edited: 8-Jun-2019, 20:31
After a closer look, i suspect this one may have been previously mounted as a jewel.
It seems that there is some metal residue on the rim at the lower right between the date and the mintmark.
billydilly
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Posted: 9-Jun-2019, 20:12
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Posted: 9-Jun-2019, 20:12
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Quote: "Didi99"After a closer look, i suspect this one may have been previously mounted as a jewel.
It seems that there is some metal residue on the rim at the lower right between the date and the mintmark.
How much would you say this takes off the value? I doesnt hurt the "appearance" of the coin that much
Didi99
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Posted: 9-Jun-2019, 20:23
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Posted: 9-Jun-2019, 20:23
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It is always hard to say. There is no simple rule as regards post mint damage..
I would downgrade the coin a little if i was interested in buying it. Let's say 10-15 less on Sheldon scale
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