What was the reason for deleting the proof/unc sets from Numista? Can we revisit this issue?

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This message aims at: suggesting an idea to improve Numista

[Catalogue] List sets of coins in the catalogue
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I propose that we readd the proof sets. It's extremely annoying not having them when trying to add to collection and Neil and others did some good work showing they can be added.

Any 'other' solution that was promised years ago is obviously not happening.
I'd like to see it too, along with Maundy sets. I'm just not sure how to handle it in a way that meets everyone's needs. Is the idea to remove proof coins entirely from the page for business strikes and put them on a separate page? That would be great for me personally as I don't really collect proofs and it's very hard to see how complete my collection is at a glance, especially for modern US issues.

I don't know if it's technically possible but it would be great if Maundy sets could be given a distinct page for each year and replace the lines for each year with lines for each denomination plus one for the case - original / reproduction. Maundy money is the low hanging fruit, there are no regular issue coins to muddy the waters and cause duplication problems. Well, arguably a few 3d's but does anyone really leave a gap in their album for those?

I'd like to know Neil's thoughts.
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Maundy sets are a good one too.

I'm thinking they don't need to be included on the regular page IF they were only released as part of a set as proof.

eg. Maundy sets/India proof sets = only in sets
Weimar proofs = On normal page
I would rather that the proof sets are not included.
Most of the time when I see proof coins on the swap list it is selected by accident.
It also does not allow a double check showing that a series is complete.
In any case it is not a big issue for me, just a little more time consuming.
Best Regards,
Ben
Could another currency for each country called mint/proof set be created? Members would still need to catalig their coins individually I am thinking...
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I liked the way us kiwis had them listed before the autocratic leadership decided to smack down innovation with the promise of a centralised solution to how to list them and destroyed hours of work. That was a part of the reason I threw a drama queen hissy fit and left the site for a while.

We had a page for the mint set that people could select if swapping whole sets and then included links to all the individual coins within the set in the comments.
What? Me Worry
Quote: "BMPJ"​I would rather that the proof sets are not included.
​Most of the time when I see proof coins on the swap list it is selected by accident.
​It also does not allow a double check showing that a series is complete.
​In any case it is not a big issue for me, just a little more time consuming.
​Best Regards,
​Ben
​I have to agree 100% with BMPJ!

Ole
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Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Quote: "Oklahoman"​Could another currency for each country called mint/proof set be created? Members would still need to catalig their coins individually I am thinking...
​Or simply create an issuer like this "Issuer-Proof"

Ole
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
I would say rather conservative than autocratic. And yes, there was meant to be a convenient way how to allow sets on the site.

To be honest, they came in wrong time really. Too many problems on many fronts, so we had to backtrack on them (and of course, actual development rests on Xavier's shoulders).

Btw, I recognized the work that has been put into those pages, and I still keep UK sets that were created back then as offline files. Before I got to New Zealand ones though, they were deleted.
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Quote: "BMPJ"​I would rather that the proof sets are not included.
​Most of the time when I see proof coins on the swap list it is selected by accident.
​It also does not allow a double check showing that a series is complete.
​In any case it is not a big issue for me, just a little more time consuming.
​Best Regards,
​Ben
​I think you misunderstand what we're talking about, we're not talking about individual proof coins in presentation sets, we're talking about sets of coins like these that are issued by the official authority



Some people swap these sets and the idea was to have one entry for the entire set so that you can easily add them to a swap, then the page for the set had a link to all the individual coins in the set. We had all the New Zealand sets done from year dot up to the 1990s before it was decided to delete them all with the promise of a flash new way to list them, destroying hours of work by me and Muzz, another kiwi member.
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I have posted this also to another thread on the forum and was referred to this one, so I will add my 2 cents here, too:

While I'm new to Numista, I'm an avid collector of (proof) coin sets with literally hundreds of official coin sets in my possession.
Therefore, I also strongly encourage the addition of a coin sets category.

After all, officially distributed coin sets are much more related to the core idea of numismatics than some of the very obscure subcategories of exonumia (brothel tokens, fantasy items of fictional places, play money to name just a few).

It's also a reasonable expectation that coin sets are not torn apart by the vast majority of collectors, so splitting them up into individual coin listings is counter-intuitive.
kschmit2

Hello,

I suggest we track the idea here: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic108347.html

Status changed to Rejected (Xavier, 7-Nov-2022, 12:09)

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