Cthusq1
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Posted: 7-Feb-2020, 16:46
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Posted: 7-Feb-2020, 16:46
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Please help to evaluate the coin.
I cannot find exactly this type of coinage.
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Topic moved to "Coin identifications and valuations"
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bjherbison
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Posted: 8-Feb-2020, 02:39
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I would call it Solms-Lich KM# 19. The listing says "Varieties exist", which often means variations in legends as well has die variations.
It's also the same general type as Saurma illustration 1154.
http://saurma.info/1/1154.htm
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Cthusq1
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Posted: 8-Feb-2020, 20:56
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Quote: "numisquare"also see:
https://www.ma-shops.com/brom/item.php?id=181029006
1613 with the inscription ERNEST I have seen many times.
And with the inscription Philippus I do not find 1613.
Other years of minting have these three cruisers.
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Cthusq1
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Posted: 8-Feb-2020, 21:00
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Quote: "bjherbison"I would call it Solms-Lich KM# 19. The listing says "Varieties exist", which often means variations in legends as well has die variations.
It's also the same general type as Saurma illustration 1154.
http://saurma.info/1/1154.htm
The same type of coinage as my coin in this catalog is numbered 1155, but there is no AU13 (1613).
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Cthusq1
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Posted: 8-Feb-2020, 21:03
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In a couple of days I will show it after restoration.
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Cthusq1
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Posted: 10-Feb-2020, 12:29
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There is no AU13 (1613) year of minting here.
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krezga
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Posted: 10-Feb-2020, 14:32
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Posted: 10-Feb-2020, 14:32
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Edited: 10-Feb-2020, 14:33
Maybe it is from Solms-Heruletz?
KM#4 or KM#6.1 ?
numisquare
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Posted: 10-Feb-2020, 14:59
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Quote: "krezga"Maybe it is from Solms-Heruletz?
KM#4 or KM#6.1 ?
I think you found it. Craig's
Germanic Coinages lists Philip II ruling from 1590-1631 in Solms-Horolecz.
Cthusq1
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Posted: 10-Feb-2020, 18:09
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After restoration
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Cthusq1
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Posted: 11-Feb-2020, 15:51
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Quote: "numisquare"
Quote: "krezga"Maybe it is from Solms-Heruletz?
KM#4 or KM#6.1 ?
I think you found it. Craig's Germanic Coinages lists Philip II ruling from 1590-1631 in Solms-Horolecz.
Could it be that my coin is not listed in the catalog? Because it has an AU13 date.
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apuking
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Posted: 11-Feb-2020, 16:32
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not rare for Krause to have years missing.
One coin exists in Krause with the year (16)13 (Meaning only 13 on the coin) but as a Klippe, which this piece of course is not.
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-solms-lich-3-kreuzer-km-20-1613-cuid-1171345-duid-1391534
I think I even have a book on coins from Solms but cannot find it at the moment.
If you like coins, medals and tokens with ship motives follow my new instagram account with regular updates @numisnautiker
From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
numisquare
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Posted: 11-Feb-2020, 19:40
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Here is one that has a (16)14 date that is not listed in Krause. It is not unusual for Krause to miss some of these.
https://www.ma-shops.com/knopik/item.php?id=170405006
Cthusq1
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Posted: 12-Feb-2020, 14:16
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Quote: "numisquare"Here is one that has a (16)14 date that is not listed in Krause. It is not unusual for Krause to miss some of these.
https://www.ma-shops.com/knopik/item.php?id=170405006
I do not consider Krause a good catalog for European coins, everything is very general and not accurate.
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Cthusq1
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Posted: 12-Feb-2020, 14:17
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Quote: "apuking"not rare for Krause to have years missing.
One coin exists in Krause with the year (16)13 (Meaning only 13 on the coin) but as a Klippe, which this piece of course is not.
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-solms-lich-3-kreuzer-km-20-1613-cuid-1171345-duid-1391534
I think I even have a book on coins from Solms but cannot find it at the moment.
If you find, I will be very grateful, especially the page with this coin.
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