Thailand 1 Baht Y#82.1 (Cu-Ni-Ag-Zn) Listed in Numista but 1 Baht Y#82.2 (Cu-Ni) missing

These coins are both listed as being minted in BE2500 (1957) ... and I have 1

But while Y#82.1 is listed here, the Y#82.2 listed in Krause is missing .... along with the "rare" Y#82a (Ag only), also dated BE2500.

How can anybody tell which is which, any way? I'm pretty certain I don't have the Y#82a, but the one I have has an odd, highly reflective finish to it unlike Cu-Ni coins.

Just how much silver is in the Y#82.1 any way? .... just a negligible amount, I presume.

Thanks for any light any may shed on this!

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/thailande-2.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=TbY8aEwGXtIC&pg=PA963&lpg=PA963&dq=Thailand+Y%2382.2&source=bl&ots=Q5Vz0pTgad&sig=OXHdrueOQlSPviNn74xygDKCwUg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwioooaFxuHMAhVIzIMKHWbHDdoQ6AEINjAF#v=onepage&q=Thailand%20Y%2382.2&f=false

If you hold a piece of toilet paper over a silver coin it will show up a bright white. Copper nickel will not. A paper towel works also.

Thanks Oklahoman!!! ... while that works with coins of significant silver content (something like 50% +) it doesn't work with 'silver' coins that have much less silver .... like this one.

I know it's an old post but not bad to mention…
KM#82.1 N#12264

I still have my 81.1 listed in collection as Cu-Ni, I guess the old Krause version didn't differentiate the compositions. The main difference is different portrait, with 1 medal on uniform. That portrait is actually a pattern presentation strike and it is now on numista:
N#95794

Whole story is there…

If that pattern coin is the basis for Krause adding Y# 82.2 then we should add Y# 82.2 to that page with an explanation of the date error. People who search for 82.2 should find it with an explanation instead of finding nothing (and coming to the forum to post).

That if is a big question…

SCWC does not list the pattern. Thai catalogs do not list one-medal type with 2500… it likely is the basis, but how to prove it? In my newer catalog there is also entry for 82a, silver baht - rare…I have no idea what's that as well…

So numista listings are probably fine, at least IMHO. 82.2 is not listed at all, if it ever appears (which will not) it will be added. Pattern issue dated 2493 does not have cross reference for Krause as it doesn't exist.

P.S. I get your point and that's why I referenced 82.1 to show in the the discussions if somebody is searching for 82.2

natbaj

P.S. I get your point and that's why I referenced 82.1 to show in the the discussions if somebody is searching for 82.2

I am here just for this reason. It looks very strange that we have no pictures in SCWC and none has this coin. 

It must be for sure very very rare or, which is my opinion, one of those mistakes that, if a future edition of that catalog will ever be printed, they will have to fix.

Darioelle

natbaj

P.S. I get your point and that's why I referenced 82.1 to show in the the discussions if somebody is searching for 82.2

I am here just for this reason. It looks very strange that we have no pictures in SCWC and none has this coin. 

It must be for sure very very rare or, which is my opinion, one of those mistakes that, if a future edition of that catalog will ever be printed, they will have to fix.

There will be no future version of those printed catalogs. Print is dead.

 

The continuation is Numismaster, but they are struggling to keep up with new releases. I would expect them to be reviewing old  listings except for serious errors.

Y# 82.1: https://numismaster.com/MC_54656 Mintage 3,143,000

Y# 82.2: https://numismaster.com/MC_61116 No mintage listed