Moroccan pattern coin? Or really bad fake? [résolu]

Hello All,

I have had this coin for a while, and have always wondered if it was a pattern coin or a bad fake.


As far as I can tell it is this coin from 1321 (1903):
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8398.html

It has the same weight and diameter of the real coin, but is absolutely not made of silver (Its made of some soft metal alloy).
I was wondering if it could possibly be a pattern coin, or just a poorly made fake?

Thanks in advance,
ShadowyEnigma :)

Hello,

I believe yours is probably a contemporary fake; if it's made of a soft metal alloy as you say, it's probably lead with a silver coating that's since worn away. Many fakes of silver coins in the 19th and early 20th centuries across Europe were made with lead this way.

Thank You!

Thats what I thought as well, but, wanted to make 100% sure :)

Many thanks,
ShadowyEnigma

Citation: "ShadowyEnigma"​Hello All,
​
​I have had this coin for a while, and have always wondered if it was a pattern coin or a bad fake.
​
​
​As far as I can tell it is this coin from 1321 (1903):
​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8398.html
​
​It has the same weight and diameter of the real coin, but is absolutely not made of silver (Its made of some soft metal alloy).
​I was wondering if it could possibly be a pattern coin, or just a poorly made fake?
​
​Thanks in advance,
​ShadowyEnigma :)

​what is a pattern coin.?
like this is something new for me.

A pattern coin is a coin which has not been approved for release, produced for the purpose of evaluating a proposed coin design.[1] They are often off-metal strike, to proof standard or piedforts. They are collected or studied by many coin collectors because of their historical importance. A high number of the world's most valuable coins are patterns, and nearly a quarter of the pieces listed in 100 Greatest US Coins are pattern coins.

Citation: "luca biondi"... ​piedforts ...

and 'piedfort' is a term to indicate that the coins has twice the thickness of the (proposed) business strike.

Citation: "luca biondi"​A pattern coin is a coin which has not been approved for release, produced for the purpose of evaluating a proposed coin design.[1] They are often off-metal strike, to proof standard or piedforts. They are collected or studied by many coin collectors because of their historical importance. A high number of the world's most valuable coins are patterns, and nearly a quarter of the pieces listed in 100 Greatest US Coins are pattern coins.

​ in my opinion, I have a coin like that
one chinese coin
how do i know it's a coin pattern..?

Citation: "Mr-IQBAL001"​

Citation: "luca biondi"​A pattern coin is a coin which has not been approved for release, produced for the purpose of evaluating a proposed coin design.[1] They are often off-metal strike, to proof standard or piedforts. They are collected or studied by many coin collectors because of their historical importance. A high number of the world's most valuable coins are patterns, and nearly a quarter of the pieces listed in 100 Greatest US Coins are pattern coins.

​​ in my opinion, I have a coin like that
​one chinese coin
​how do i know it's a coin pattern..?

​please, not again with your chinese fake-thing!

Citation: "Mr-IQBAL001"​

Citation: "luca biondi"​A pattern coin is a coin which has not been approved for release, produced for the purpose of evaluating a proposed coin design.[1] They are often off-metal strike, to proof standard or piedforts. They are collected or studied by many coin collectors because of their historical importance. A high number of the world's most valuable coins are patterns, and nearly a quarter of the pieces listed in 100 Greatest US Coins are pattern coins.

​​ in my opinion, I have a coin like that
​one chinese coin
​how do i know it's a coin pattern..?

​You could post it here, and people who know more can and will tell you whether it's a rare pattern worth a lot or a worthless fake.

Oh, wait, you already did that, but you refuse to listen.

Citation: "CassTaylor"​

Citation: "Mr-IQBAL001"​
​

Citation: "luca biondi"​A pattern coin is a coin which has not been approved for release, produced for the purpose of evaluating a proposed coin design.[1] They are often off-metal strike, to proof standard or piedforts. They are collected or studied by many coin collectors because of their historical importance. A high number of the world's most valuable coins are patterns, and nearly a quarter of the pieces listed in 100 Greatest US Coins are pattern coins.

​​​ in my opinion, I have a coin like that
​​one chinese coin
​​how do i know it's a coin pattern..?

​​You could post it here, and people who know more can and will tell you whether it's a rare pattern worth a lot or a worthless fake.
​
​Oh, wait, you already did that, but you refuse to listen.
​

​But there is something interesting about my coin.
I saw a lot of lions on the head of my coin
unfortunately I refused to post it here.
because I'm sure the lion will be a goat right after I receive a reply to my post

What kind of boring lion nonsens are you talking all the time? Just enjoy this forum and coin-collecting in
general and do not become some pain-in-the ass, for peace sake...

Like I have to be patient with people like you. because sometimes someone doesn't even understand what is being said

Citation: "Mr-IQBAL001"​Like I have to be patient with people like you. because sometimes someone doesn't even understand what is being said

​....that is exactly what I mean....

Citation: "ShadowyEnigma"​Hello All,
​
​I have had this coin for a while, and have always wondered if it was a pattern coin or a bad fake.
​
​
​As far as I can tell it is this coin from 1321 (1903):
​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8398.html
​
​It has the same weight and diameter of the real coin, but is absolutely not made of silver (Its made of some soft metal alloy).
​I was wondering if it could possibly be a pattern coin, or just a poorly made fake?
​
​Thanks in advance,
​ShadowyEnigma :)

​ Contemporary counterfeits are their own area of interest. Will you be keeping this coin?

Citation: "yvon"​
​​....that is exactly what I mean....

"​Contre la stupidité, les dieux eux-mêmes luttent en vain."