South Africa KM#81 Half Cent mintages

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2878.html
I have recently made a modification request for the above listing with regard to the mintage figures, where the quantities that were listed for the business strikes were actually the total mintages for the years, including proofs. Could someone from the team also add the demonetization date of 1983 (perhaps one of our South African members might have more detail on this) and can you also remove the "(fr) BE" from the comment column after 1975 which does not mean anything to English speaking members and perhaps after it is removed the correct order of business strike then proof strike for each year will be restored (I know it's a pedantic request but I find it annoying when the strikes are out of order as you read down the list).

Many thanks, Rick

Maybe.

I'm not sure about the mintage figures. Do you have a link?

I was accepting them as I usually do from good members, and I realized, "They're all 20,000." So I'm really not sure what to do, unless you've got the link.

By the way, it was a circulating issue. It's just demonetized.

I referenced the mintage figures from my 2009 36th Edition Krause - I have tried to confirm them by way of Google search but with no success. Also, the details on the demonetization I was looking for were the month and date, so if there are any SA members out there perhaps they can help.

I do not know about the demon' month in 1983 but I will try to find out.
The mintages I have on file is as follows"

DATE    MINTAGE       PROOF MINTAGE

1970    45,375,363     10,000
1971     32,000          12,000
1972     20,000          10,000
1973     30,850          10,850
1974     35,000          15,000
1975     38,000          18,000
1976     41,000          21,000
1977     39,000          19,000
1978     37,000          17,000
1979     35,000          15,000
1980     15,000          15,000
1981     10,000          10,000
1982     12,000          12,000
1983     14,135          14,135

Andrew, thanks for your feedback on this. Reading between the lines, it looks like the column you have for "MINTAGE" is actually the total mintage for the year since Krause lists 1980, 1981 and 1983 as Proof only and the figures you have for mintage and proof mintage for those years are the same. Of course that is not to say that Krause is always right - experiene has shown that is far from the case. Also, interestingly, Krause shows no issues for 1979 or 1982, unless they have updated their figures since they published the 2009 36th Edition. Can you shed any more light on this? Regards, Rick

Correct, the column MINTAGE is full amount minted and the PROOF column is the portion of the full amount of coins minted.  I got this information from RANDCOIN who is a South African Based Numismatic sight.  The information is about 5 years old, but I cannot see the information could have changed.

If You want to, drop them a mail and pose Your questions to them.  They are very helpfull.

Andrew, thanks again for your input. I have registered with the site and sent them an email regarding the two sets of figures but I am obviously inclined to trust your set as being the more accurate. I'll probably have to wait until next week before seeing any response.

SmartOneKg, thanks for your help with the validations so far. In light of what we have learned from Andrew you should probably reject the outstanding modification requests and I will submit a new set once I have received confirmation from Randburg Coin.

By the way, when I was looking through the brief history of RSA decimal issues on the site, they did confirm the year of 1983 for demonetization of the half cent but no month or date sadly.

It's taken a while to arrive, but today I received my 2012 Hern's Handbook on South African Coins & Patterns. The data in there obviously confirms Andrew's figures and I have submitted a new modification request for the mintage figures and a few other minor details. Please could someone from the team also remove the "(fr) BE" comment which appears at the end of the line for the 1975 business strike. Many thanks, Rick

thank you radrick007

Citation: james wolfe thank you radrick007

You're very welcome, james wolfe  

Many thanks to the team for validating my modification requests so quickly. I'm guessing that to remove the "(fr)BE" comment I mentioned would be someone else's department, possibly Xavier?

I will do it. it's just the french version - no comment written on the english yet - so that the french one
is displayed with a "(fr)"

Many thanks for removing the redundant "(fr)" - unfortunately, the "BE" is still there, but not required  

I don't understand,
1975 mintage is now 20,000 business and 18,000 Proof like your and andrew's sources say.
please help me where I missed to delete something

Sorry if I didn't make myself clear enough - I don't know how to post a screen capture like some others do. If you go to the Numista catalog page:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2878.html
at the end of the line for the 1975 Proof strike, it has the letters "[BE]" under the word "Proof". I know this has probably come over from the French part of the site but it doesn't belong on this page (and it looks untidy!)

Citation: radrick007I don't know how to post a screen capture like some others do.

 Firstly there is a button inbetween keyboard sections at the top, called Print Screen. Which pressing it by itself does nothing, but works when Ctrl is pressed with it at the same time. That stores the screen image in a 'clipboard' for future use.
  Then you may have a program called 'Paint' on your computer and not realise it. Especially with Windows. It come as a standard program, and can be found by either Start/All Programs or Start/Search. Other programs are available!
  Once you have hopefully found it, then open it - then go to Edit then Paste - where it will 'paste' the screen image; which can be saved, or amended/trimmed etc.
  Don't know if that all helps you, or anyone else who wanted to know.  

Thanks, ZacUK, that's really helpful - I'll give it a try.

I think I know your problem now. Whenever a collection entry of you gets transferred to a different
mintage year / entry (let's say "merged"), the comment of that entry gets written down as
"personal comment" to the new entry. I don't know how to explain any better.
Point is: try out if you can delete this "[BE]" by clicking "personal comment" next to it.
it seems it's not a database comment since it is not displayed for me here

Spot on, Makake77, thanks very much! Don't know why I didn't think of that myself - I feel a bit foolish now  

simple solutions are often the best  
no need to blush    that one has tricked me too for quite some time