New category for Books beside Coins / Banknotes / Exonumia [résolu]

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davidhs

I saw the new section “Literature”. 😁

 

There a text without translation label. The field “Periodical” in the main page https://en.numista.com/literature/index.php has the text “No results found” always in English. The translation label exists (select2>no_match) but it is not used here.

Fixed ✅

I would like to know how or if it is possible to move the reference from a specific year edition to the catalog group? Like it is done for the KM catalogs (LINK).

Right now all JNDA# are listed under the 2024 edition (LINK) that was modified every year to keep it up-to-date, of the JNDA catalog (LINK).

 

If we would add previous editions to the different KM catalogs would thy be listed in 'sub folders' or all be listed like they are on the JNDA group and mess things up?

 

KM (with sub-grouping)

1601-1700

1st edition

2nd edition

1701-1800

1st edition

2nd edition

 

KM (all editions in one page)

1601-1700 1st edition

1601-1700 2nd edition

1701-1800 1st edition

1701-1800 2nd edition

 

'Topic of the volume' is now also available, for issues that have many editions but are nearly the same just updated could there be an option to take over edits for all books of a group?

Some of coins books are in the public domain and free PDF may be found on Google books, Academia.edu and other sources.

Could these sources be attached for each Numista book file ?

 

Some other bibliographic web sources are also interesting for the collector as https://numismatica-italiana.lamoneta.it/, https://www.bollettinodinumismatica.it/#/biblioteca-online, http://www.duiten.nl/, RPC, etc…

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Frenchlover

Some of coins books are in the public domain and free PDF may be found on Google books, Academia.edu and other sources.

Could these sources be attached for each Numista book file ?

It is already the case. For example : https://en.numista.com/literature/volume.php?id=2705

Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno

Topic of the books

We added the possibility to add and see the topic of the book (associate an issuer, ruler, mint or coin). Further integration will come later: search by topic, links to the related books on the mint page, etc.

 

Reference

Reference catalogues are either books (generally the latest edition, unless there was a change in numbering), a book series (for example, the Standard Catalog of World Coins, which is made of multiple volumes), an article or a series of articles.

You can open a ticket on the forum to add or modify a catalogue code.

 

Sub-folder structure

It's possible to create groups of volumes and groups of groups. So indeed we could have a “sub-folder” structure for the Standard Catalog of World Coins (KM).

 

PDFs

We don't host the PDFs directly for the moment. However we already use the possibility to provide a link where books can be downloaded or read online legally.

I am absolutely thrilled with the introduction of the literature section! When I saw it just now, it felt like a dream come true! I hope to contribute with many entries whenever possible. I’d like to suggest, if feasible, including at least the cover of each book (I believe just the book cover image wouldn’t violate copyright, but please correct me if I’m wrong). I also thought about the possibility of including the table of contents for each book (when available), but that might cause issues, right? Hugs to everyone, and count on me for this section!

Sub Quo Signo Nata Stabit

Xavier

Topic of the books

We added the possibility to add and see the topic of the book (associate an issuer, ruler, mint or coin). Further integration will come later: search by topic, links to the related books on the mint page, etc.

If it doesn't strain the cyclical update system to much I think using information from the catalog pages that use a reference could be used to fill out that information, at least for reference books we already have in the database. But I don't know how the issuer and ruler field of general catalogs like KM will look like with hundreds or thousands of entries😅.

And sometimes in foreign language, it's not that obvious :)

 

Referee of south atlantic islands

How would the copyright system work? I understand we may get permission from some authors/publication houses but how about older books from now deceased authors because the laws on when they can be in the public domain varies by country. 

 

All of Europe, Western Africa, Australia, Indonesia, parts of the Americas with the exception of Belarus  the copyright is the life of the author plus an extra 70 years. The rest of Africa, most of Asia  the Middle East, Belarus and New Zealand it’s only 50 years. Furthermore there are expecting cases such as Mexico where it’s 100 years, India where it’s 60, Colombia where it’s 80 and Somalia where it’s 30 years only.

Hi to whoever is reading this. Did you know that TYPEWRITER (on a QWERTY keyboard) is the longest word you can type using only the letters on one row of the keyboard.

What language is expected the text in the fields “Title translation” and “Subtitle translation” of the “Add or modify data” page?

 

I visited this page in different languages (English, French and Spanish) and the name of these fields in the source code was always referring to the English (title_en, subtitle_en).

 

Is the translation always expected to be in English? In this case, perhaps should be added the language. For example:

(EN) Title translation (in English)
(FR) Traduction du titre (en anglais)
(ES) Traducción del título (en inglés)

 

Is there an error and the translation must be in the interface language? In this case, I think the language should also be added, to avoid confusion. For example:

(EN) Title translation (in English)
(FR) Traduction du titre (en français)
(ES) Traducción del título (en español)

 

Edit: Done. https://en.numista.com/forum/topic125253-2.html#p1217665

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ramgu2005

I am absolutely thrilled with the introduction of the literature section! When I saw it just now, it felt like a dream come true! I hope to contribute with many entries whenever possible. I’d like to suggest, if feasible, including at least the cover of each book (I believe just the book cover image wouldn’t violate copyright, but please correct me if I’m wrong). I also thought about the possibility of including the table of contents for each book (when available), but that might cause issues, right? Hugs to everyone, and count on me for this section!

It's possible to add the picture of the cover. Feel free to make modification requests, like you would do for coins.
 

I'm not sure about adding the table of contents, but we'll soon have a field for description, where it will be possible to describe the content in more details.

Worldwide collection

How would the copyright system work? I understand we may get permission from some authors/publication houses but how about older books from now deceased authors because the laws on when they can be in the public domain varies by country. 

Are you referring to copyright for the picture of the cover? If so, the policy is that we assume that the publisher consent, and we can remove it if there are any complaint.

Should the new section only contain reference catalogues or can it also contain books on numismatics in general?

Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno

See the guidelines 😉

The Literature Section of Numista aims to reference all printed publications of interest to numismatists and collectors of coins, banknotes, and exonumia.

Publications included must have an educational purpose or provide documentation value specifically within the field of numismatics (as defined here), such as numismatic academic journals, magazines for coin collectors, historical books with a strong focus on numismatics, museum collection catalogues and numismatic auction catalogues.

All printed formats are accepted, including books, journals, magazines, and articles.

 

However, works that only mention coins or banknotes without focusing on numismatics (for example, a general history book) or that lack educational or documentation value (for example, a novel featuring coins) are considered out of scope.

https://en.numista.com/help/guidelines-for-the-literature-catalogue-212.html

davidhs

What language is expected the text in the fields “Title translation” and “Subtitle translation” of the “Add or modify data” page?

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Is the translation always expected to be in English? In this case, perhaps should be added the language. For example:

(EN) Title translation (in English)
(FR) Traduction du titre (en anglais)
(ES) Traducción del título (en inglés)

The text is expected in English only. I adjusted the labels in French and Spanish.

Xavier

Worldwide collection

How would the copyright system work? I understand we may get permission from some authors/publication houses but how about older books from now deceased authors because the laws on when they can be in the public domain varies by country. 

Are you referring to copyright for the picture of the cover? If so, the policy is that we assume that the publisher consent, and we can remove it if there are any complaint.

Not really, I was talking about the book as a whole.  Of course it would be easier to ask permission from living authors or the publication house. My main point was about coin collecting books from the 1800s and pre 1950s where the author would be deceased in most cases. I’m just a little intrigued how Numista might deal with the copyright, for example the author died in the 1960s but because the author and his publications were in the UK his works don’t enter the public domain for another 10 or so years. 
 

https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/copyright-myths-exploded.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_copyright_duration_by_country

 

Would these PDF scanned books be viewable/ downloadable/printable to everyone who visits Numista regardless if they have an account? 
 

I view it similarly to Kortext where people who have an account to access and download books for their own viewing.    

Hi to whoever is reading this. Did you know that TYPEWRITER (on a QWERTY keyboard) is the longest word you can type using only the letters on one row of the keyboard.

Numista won't host anything other then the cover so copyright will not be an issue. There will only be links to supposedly freely available public domain books.

 

Also Numista is a French site with servers in Canada so only relevant laws would be French (EU) and maybe Canadian anyway.

Most Auction houses gave us permission to use their coin Images for Numista.  

 

It makes sense that Most Auction houses will allow for Numista to Host there Auction Catalog (PDF) with price sheets as well. 

 

Just got to ask the Auction Houses for additional permissions. I am even willing to bet the Auction Houses will provide the reference material for free.

Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
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Excuse my ignorance, it may have already been written here. But in the literature section I don't see the “Add it yourself” option.. If it is already possible to do so, where can I go to add books?

Sub Quo Signo Nata Stabit

You have do a research to see the option at the bottom of the page. 
 

https://en.numista.com/literature/contributions/new.php

Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno

Basteros

You have do a research to see the option at the bottom of the page. 
 

https://en.numista.com/literature/contributions/new.php

Thank you very much!

Sub Quo Signo Nata Stabit

Can a link be included on the creation page to the approved literature? I shared a screen shot of a modification request to show what I am referring to.

 

Referee for Exonumia from United States

There is an error with the information box (when you click on the question mark) on the modification page. This seems only to be a problem for the ‘Topic of the Volume’ information boxes. This pop-up seems to be regarding the ‘legal  tender’ question for coin pages.

markyourcoin.weebly.com

There is an error in the general search for books, it says there are 2955 books, but only the first 1000 are visible, after the page 5 nothing loads on the page... https://en.numista.com/literature/index.php?r=&t=book&a=&pg=5&q=200

Sub Quo Signo Nata Stabit

Can the admins please make a way to have a wishlist of books ?

It would be nice to see if existing members have a book in their procession.  So that a member may be able to contact them for detail information  that may exist in the book.  

Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/

superagentman

It would be nice to see if existing members have a book in their procession.  So that a member may be able to contact them for detail information  that may exist in the book.  

+1

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The bibliography section does not have the link to my modification requests of bibliography https://en.numista.com/literature/contributions/literature_requests.php (I submitted one).

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davidhs

The bibliography section does not have the link to my modification requests of bibliography https://en.numista.com/literature/contributions/literature_requests.php (I submitted one).

It's fixed.

A small visual problem. See https://en.numista.com/literature/volume.php?id=2370

 

The cover image has a fixed height that shifts the text of descriptions:

 

When I remove the height, the text flows correctly.

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Hello,

 

We added the possibility to upload a PDF copy to books and articles.

 

To avoid copy right issues, admins will accept only PDF files which meet one of these criteria:

  • The work is in the public domain.
  • The work is published under a license which allows publication on Numista.
  • You hold the reproduction rights over the work.

 

Ping @adanieluy 🙂

Xavier

Hello,

 

We added the possibility to upload a PDF copy to books and articles.

 

To avoid copy right issues, admins will accept only PDF files which meet one of these criteria:

  • The work is in the public domain.
  • The work is published under a license which allows publication on Numista.
  • You hold the reproduction rights over the work.

 

Ping @adanieluy 🙂

Amazing! Congrats Numista Team!

Sub Quo Signo Nata Stabit

Yeah 👍 how about EPUB as well 😁 

Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
https://coinwishlist.weebly.com/

Xavier

Hello,

 

We added the possibility to upload a PDF copy to books and articles.

 

To avoid copy right issues, admins will accept only PDF files which meet one of these criteria:

  • The work is in the public domain.
  • The work is published under a license which allows publication on Numista.
  • You hold the reproduction rights over the work.

 

Ping @adanieluy 🙂

Great!!! I have already posted a sample to check if all goes OK. https://en.numista.com/literature/volume.php?id=3631

Just 10 options: you understand binary, or you don't.
Catalog Referee Coins, Banknotes & Exonumia: Uruguay, Cuba, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico, Peru, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Panama, Ecuador, Zamunda, Parva Domus and more.

adanieluy

Great!!! I have already posted a sample to check if all goes OK. https://en.numista.com/literature/volume.php?id=3631

With coins unpublished pages are restricted and most users can't view them. But I can see this page and it says “This page has not been published yet”. Is this intentional?

bjherbison

adanieluy

Great!!! I have already posted a sample to check if all goes OK. https://en.numista.com/literature/volume.php?id=3631

With coins unpublished pages are restricted and most users can't view them. But I can see this page and it says “This page has not been published yet”. Is this intentional?

Pages of requests cannot be viewed, unpublished pages themselves can be viewed by anyone, provided they have a link, which is usually nowhere to be found.

Catalogue administrator

superagentman

Yeah 👍 how about EPUB as well 😁 

Do you know of any source where numismatic content is freely available in EPUB format?

Yumpu proposes free online reading and downloads after registering.

https://www.yumpu.com/fr/document/view/16621504/description-historique-des-monnaies-frappees-sous-lempire-romain-#

Henri Cohen : Description historique des monnaies frappées sous l'Empire romain.pdf

Then I don't know if the licence is in the public domain.

Referee of south atlantic islands

Frenchlover

Yumpu proposes free online reading and downloads after registering.

https://www.yumpu.com/fr/document/view/16621504/description-historique-des-monnaies-frappees-sous-lempire-romain-#

Henri Cohen : Description historique des monnaies frappées sous l'Empire romain.pdf

Then I don't know if the licence is in the public domain.

We can add Yumpu links as “Download URLs”, similar to what we already with Google Books links, arhive.org, JSTOR, Gallica, etc.

See for example: https://en.numista.com/literature/volume.php?id=1724

Sorry, I missed the important part that Yumpu also offers download.

As the author Henry Cohen died 145 years ago, it's safe to say that the work is in the public domain, and can be uploaded on Numista.

Xavier

superagentman

Yeah 👍 how about EPUB as well 😁 

Do you know of any source where numismatic content is freely available in EPUB format?

Past books will probably be in PDF format, but future books will be using EPUB format.  EPUB format is the default format for E-Books when it comes to publishing platforms and online distribution. 

Coins dated 1935 or its equivalent including No Dates.
I am currently looking for the following coins, you can view, them on my webpage:
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Sure, we can add EPUB when we see some concrete value in the future.

Xavier

Sorry, I missed the important part that Yumpu also offers download.

As the author Henry Cohen died 145 years ago, it's safe to say that the work is in the public domain, and can be uploaded on Numista.

Only original editions though; any modern reprint which would not be just photocopies of past edition would still be protected material (the layout and images etc, not the text itself as series of characters)

Description historique des monnaies frappées sous l'Empire Romain, Volume-7

Issued on 1868, London

Referee of south atlantic islands

Frenchlover

Description historique des monnaies frappées sous l'Empire Romain, Volume-7

Issued on 1868, London

Here you go
https://en.numista.com/literature/volume_group.php?id=606

Jarcek

Yes, collection of books will come soon.

wow, highly welcome

Compendium

Frenchlover

Description historique des monnaies frappées sous l'Empire Romain, Volume-7

Issued on 1868, London

Here you go
https://en.numista.com/literature/volume_group.php?id=606

Thanks, request done

Referee of south atlantic islands

Hello,

 

You can now keep an inventory of your numismatic books.

Button on the page of a book to add it to “my bookshelf”

 

Once you add at least one book to “my bookshelf”, you can see it in your account menu.

Xavier

Hello,

 

You can now keep an inventory of your numismatic books.

Button on the page of a book to add it to “my bookshelf”

 

Once you add at least one book to “my bookshelf”, you can see it in your account menu.

Amazing new feature Xavier, thanks and congrats! 👏👏👏

Sub Quo Signo Nata Stabit
État implémenté (Xavier, 20 mars 2025, 17h33)

Xavier

Hello,

You can now keep an inventory of your numismatic books.

 

Thank you!  I love this feature!

🙃

 

I tested and I found two “problems” related with the translation:

  • My bookshelf page, “Sort by” filter.  Two options begin with the word “By”.  It does not sound very good.
    (I fixed it in Spanish.)
  • Edit a book in collection page. The label “Pictures or private PDF documents” displays the HTML tag instead of a line break.
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Wonderful addition to the site, I’m going to have fun searching for and adding my books to my collection!
 

One suggestion I would propose is adding the ability for all pieces under “Literature” to be added to one’s bookshelf. Atm, it seems like articles cannot be added. In my field of Sogdian and Central Asian coins, journal articles are one of the primary sources for reference material, and many are not easy to acquire. The ability to catalog all of my numismatic literature, not just my books, would be well appreciated!

Reslumi

One suggestion I would propose is adding the ability for all pieces under “Literature” to be added to one’s bookshelf. Atm, it seems like articles cannot be added. In my field of Sogdian and Central Asian coins, journal articles are one of the primary sources for reference material, and many are not easy to acquire. The ability to catalog all of my numismatic literature, not just my books, would be well appreciated!

Do you mean you own the article without the journal in which they were published? A digital version?

Xavier

Reslumi

One suggestion I would propose is adding the ability for all pieces under “Literature” to be added to one’s bookshelf. Atm, it seems like articles cannot be added. In my field of Sogdian and Central Asian coins, journal articles are one of the primary sources for reference material, and many are not easy to acquire. The ability to catalog all of my numismatic literature, not just my books, would be well appreciated!

Do you mean you own the article without the journal in which they were published? A digital version?

Yes, digital copies. Many of the journals are difficult to find as they’re older or published in countries like Uzbekistan, so I’ve had to dig online to find individual articles. Some of those exist in Numista’s Literature section as references, but can’t be added to My Bookshelf right now, which would be a wonderful addition in my eyes.

Wouldnt it be weird to consider we all “own” all books listed in Numista with a PDF ?

I guess I dont understand why do you need to store this info? 

Compendium

Wouldnt it be weird to consider we all “own” all books listed in Numista with a PDF ?

I guess I dont understand why do you need to store this info? 

I agree it would be odd to claim we “own" them, thats true. To me, it would just be helpful to be able to consolidate relevant catalogs in one place on Numista. Perhaps instead of adding the ability to add articles and papers to our bookshelf, a feature for pinning articles could work. 

Oh yes, organizing our own documentation Center makes sense to me

Maybe add fields…

  • PDF copy (yes/no) – if you have a copy of the book/article in PDF
  • Used as reference (yes/no) – if you want have a quick access to the Numista page of the book/article
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Hello,

Will it be possible to search for books by issuer ? That would be very useful

Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno

Just wanted to thank @Xavier  and the team working on this feature, thank you all ,it is really nice. 

Referee for: Egypt

I think I may have found a bug.

 

I entered a book by Franc Connor. He only has 2 and I entered them both as Acquisition date 9/12/2024 but they both show after it saves as 9/11/2024.

Referee for Exonumia from United States

Hello,
This bus is already tracked here: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic158598.html
We have not been able to reproduce it so far.

Actually it's now fixed 🙂

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